Can a speaker/system make a song sound like 1080p instead of 4K?

[boxerfan88]

He said he found one…

 

[Blumlein 88]

Resolution in the sense of images just does not translate into sound. People keep trying one way or another. It is a square peg in a round hole.

 

[dweeeeb2]

I’d say that the smoother the FR the more 4k it is

 

[Blumlein 88]

I’d say that the smoother the FR the more 4k it is

Okay, then you have those that will alter the FR to create the audio anamorphic lens. See/hear these image to sound analogies just don't work very well.

 

[GXAlan]

The biggest difference of 4K vs 1080p is HDR/color gamut. So CONTENT that doesn’t have a lot of dynamic range compression and SPEAKERS that hit high SPLs without compressions would give you a 4K vs 1080P experience.

A ton of movies are finished in 2K, and they still look great. That’s because they still have wide color gamut.

 

[JSmith]

My speakers are 8K...


JSmith

 

[CapMan]

“This sounds like a luxury product” - what is he on

I guess none of my speaker cables will work if we move to 4K

 

[antcollinet]

No.

 

[MaxwellsEq]

The answer to the question in the title is "no".

It sometimes is helpful to use analogies, but they often become incorrect beyond the simplest use. The photography/display analogy seems attractive, but (as an example) frequency in audio is measured with time as the denominator, yet with photography, or displays, distance is the denominator. It should be immediately obvious how this can be problematic.

 

[GXAlan]

The answer to the question in the title is "no".

It sometimes is helpful to use analogies, but they often become incorrect beyond the simplest use.

Dynamic range has the same goal for both photography/displays as well as audio (recordings).

Show someone the difference between 1080p and 4k in the show room where you might be standing far away? Not a big deal. Show someone the super contrast of OLED blacks mini LED brightness, and people get excited. Screen size does matter (maybe SPL is a good comparison)

 

[antcollinet]

Dynamic range has the same goal for both photography/displays as well as audio (recordings).

Show someone the difference between 1080p and 4k in the show room where you might be standing far away? Not a big deal. Show someone the super contrast of OLED blacks mini LED brightness, and people get excited. Screen size does matter (maybe SPL is a good comparison)

4K and 1080 are specifically resolution/frequency characteristics. They have nothing to do with dynamic range, except that in modern TV systems you typically ALSO get HDR with 4K gear.

It is like mixing up sampling rate with bit depth. Two different things.

 

[MaxwellsEq]

Dynamic range has the same goal for both photography/displays as well as audio (recordings).

Show someone the difference between 1080p and 4k in the show room where you might be standing far away? Not a big deal. Show someone the super contrast of OLED blacks mini LED brightness, and people get excited. Screen size does matter (maybe SPL is a good comparison)

That's true. The problem is that displays have always been extremely poor compared to reality in terms of dynamic range and colour gamut. Whereas, most of us never experience music at home which has the quietest bits at -90 and the loudest at 0.

 

[audiofooled]

I think he wants to imply that such a system has more "resolution" than recordings do. It also makes your cables, fuses and precious stones worthwhile. In the video of the performance I hear nothing out of the ordinary. It must be because video quality is only 1080p

 

[boxerfan88]

What are those 4 plastic transparent "things" ?

Some sort of diffuser?

 

[audiofooled]

What are those 4 plastic transparent "things" ?

Some sort of diffuser?

They are for adding "transparency", obviously.

 

[Yasuo]

My speakers are 8K...


JSmith

And are they 8D as well? That's the new YouTube hype...

 

[Tell]

For me the closest audio comparison with image resolution is frequency response. If a speaker is "4K" I guess it can play up to 20khz, and if it's "1080p" it reaches maybe 15khz. Not that it's really a feat to do so though, and this isn't what that guy is on about anyways, he's just spewing out some kind of audiophile marketing bullshit to sell a pair of overly expensive speakers that looks like ugly version of a retro wooden speedboat standing on it's stern.

 

[boxerfan88]

They are for adding "transparency", obviously.

Wah ha ha ha ha … that’s a really good one

 

[VintageFlanker]

My two cents: just about any video form Jay's Audio Lab (who surely has no clue what "lab" means) deserves to be shared in this thread only and nowhere else...

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Ok, I have for a few years now had Shunyata as the "King" of the snake oil sellers. They represent the worst of the worst. They have it all. Marketing material that is pure rubbish and techno nonsense by the bucket full. I always wish someone with deep pockets could sue them out of existence...

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