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HarmonicTHD
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KH80 Neumann. Less hiss and DSP built in.
Thread 'Neumann KH80 DSP Monitor Measurements #3'
https://audiosciencereview.com/foru...eumann-kh80-dsp-monitor-measurements-3.14637/
I prefer the sound of Neumann (in this case KH80) over the Genelec sound...
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What do you think, @Pearljam5000?
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What do you think, @Pearljam5000?
Have a look at Kali IN-5 or, if you have the space to place it, even Kali IN-8. Best value speakers in my opinion, though there is a dip in the higher frequencies and the casing has strong resonances. These both issues can be fixed with a foam layer beneath the speaker and a moderate EQ. Other than that, I never had such a good speaker for the money. But if you really want to go long term, spend the extra bucks and go Neumann/Genelec with a subwoofer.
This is not a no-brains alternative. It will very much depend on the use case. The speaker is a lot smaller, and will not play as loud, especially down low. So if not used near field, it will be a compromise.
You could also look second hand. It would make a larger model an option, like 8040B or KH120.
There are some passives worth considering.
Ascend Acoustics Sierra 1 V2:
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Ascend Acoustics Sierra 1 V2:
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Price point where?
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The cost of a pair of Genelec 8030C $1400
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I dont own an amp so passives would be alot more expensive.
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My apartment is pretty small and i will be sitting around 3 meters from the speakers
HarmonicTHD
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That’s a lot for either of the above speakers. Genelec, Neumann and probably others give recommended listening distances which are usually around 0.8 to 1.5m.
Better not get the KH80s then. 3 m is quite a distance.
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The Kalis are also notorious for their aggressive limiter in the lows. It is noticeable if your LP is not in the near field.
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I prefer the sound of GenelecI prefer the sound of Neumann (in this case KH80) over the Genelec sound...
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What do you think, @Pearljam5000?
how surprising
Older Neumanns are too dark for me
Hopefully the new ones fix that
But still Genelecs have a unique sound to them..
At 3m you might be better off with the 8040 instead... I think you can usually find them for less than $1400 secondhand.
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Even then, the direct to diffuse sound ratio (unless the room is well-treated) and bass handling may still be questionable. 8040s with sub(s) is a substantially pricier proposition. I would generally be aiming for at least some IN-8s or decent (passive) floorstanders. (My rule of thumb would be <1-1.5 m for 5.5", 1.5-2 m for 6.5" and 1.5-2.5 m for 8".)
The combination of "small apartment" and "3 m listening distance" is also setting off alarm bells regarding potential listening setup. A listening position with a wall pretty much directly behind you is seriously problematic.
The combination of "small apartment" and "3 m listening distance" is also setting off alarm bells regarding potential listening setup. A listening position with a wall pretty much directly behind you is seriously problematic.
Maybe Klipsch Nines for 3 meters.
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Klipsch The Nines - Review & Measurements by Erin
Is that really a Klipsch speaker ? o_O Edit: Text data is up: https://www.erinsaudiocorner.com/loudspeakers/klipsch_the_nines/
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There are also active floorstanding speakers available, although a bit pricier than the 8030, for example:
KEF LS60
Dynaudio focus 30
System audio legend 60.2 silverback
KEF LS60
Dynaudio focus 30
System audio legend 60.2 silverback
Depending on your room, music taste and setup, you could probably get away without a sub. I ran 8040s in my room and at 2.5m, they did very well. With sub is better though. You can always add one later.
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In Amir’s measurements of the 8030c I believe they could play 105db before much limiting. I think they’d be excellent for casual listening even at 3m. It’ll be hard to best them for $1400/pair. They were even finalists for Stereophile’s 2022 component of the year honours (in G3 form). Pretty sure Stereophile didn’t listen to them nearfield.
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