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I didn't say anything about power rating? I said given the same maximum power rating a larger diameter (ie, larger area) VC and motor will result in less thermal compression. Underhung has its own limitations, not the least of which is limited xmax.
Okay, but thermal/power compression comes from heat. The relative low power handling of e.g. the SB75-375 SC comes from it's not very high heat dissipation capacity, because the surface area of the voice coil is small. It will heat up by relative low power, so the power compression starts at lower input power compared to a driver with higher power handling.
 
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ATC Loudspeakers
https://atc.audio › 2014/01PDF
ATC-Driver-Specs.pdf
There is another 'hifi' style 15" woofer, the SB100-375 SC and LC, the larger diameter (hence larger surface area for heat distribution/dissipation) voice coil allows a greater power handling of 200/400W. Maybe this driver is used in the SCM0.1/15SL Pro sub.
 
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There is another 'hifi' style 15" woofer, the SB100-375 SC and LC, the larger diameter voice coil allows a greater power handling of 200/400W. Maybe this driver is used in the SCM0.1/15SL Pro sub.
Maybe but if you want very high power handling low fs high xmax and sensitivity the BMS 18N862 is among the best i have found
 
Wow
I never realized that they're that expensive
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Can’t give you statistics but I had to double up on the number of 850s in my setup due to rattling cones developing after only a few months of use even though my setup reaches the required SPL for atmos mixing on paper. I know a few people who have repeatedly replaced 750 drivers and Neumann are saying it’s a ‘software issue’. I’ve also had three KH310 woofers break on me. Sure the drivers are working very hard but this isn’t an issue on ATC’s speakers. I reckon it’s probably due to the heavy EQing going on in Neumann speakers combined with drivers which are too small to be reproducing deep bass.

Never seen these kind of failure rates with Genelec atmos rooms.
 
Cheaper than mains monitors of the same size by Genelec or PCM,etc.
Which prices did you find? In mainland Europe at least the twin 15" mains from Genelec are cheaper and offer also SAM and higher SPL due to the 2 mids and horn tweeter.
 
Which prices did you find? In mainland Europe at least the twin 15" mains from Genelec are cheaper and offer also SAM and higher SPL due to the 2 mids and horn tweeter.
A Geithain system would also be cheaper... :cool:
 
Which prices did you find? In mainland Europe at least the twin 15" mains from Genelec are cheaper and offer also SAM and higher SPL due to the 2 mids and horn tweeter.
It depends on the shop,street price is similar (Genelec is per speaker in the above link,ATC is per pair).
But yes,Genelec offers a better package.
In general they are close,twin 12" Quested for example goes for about 30k a piece.

Edit:I was thinking more about 1236 AM which is about 35k per piece but this has twin 18" .
 
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Can’t give you statistics but I had to double up on the number of 850s in my setup due to rattling cones developing after only a few months of use even though my setup reaches the required SPL for atmos mixing on paper. I know a few people who have repeatedly replaced 750 drivers and Neumann are saying it’s a ‘software issue’. I’ve also had three KH310 woofers break on me. Sure the drivers are working very hard but this isn’t an issue on ATC’s speakers. I reckon it’s probably due to the heavy EQing going on in Neumann speakers combined with drivers which are too small to be reproducing deep bass.

Never seen these kind of failure rates with Genelec atmos rooms.
That says it for all for people asking why passives exist
 
It depends on the shop,street price is similar (Genelec is per speaker in the above link,ATC is per pair).
But yes,Genelec offers a better package.
In general they are close,twin 12" Quested for example goes for about 30k a piece.

Edit:I was thinking more about 1236 AM which is about 35k per piece but this has twin 18" .
I considered of course the pair price and that of the Genelec is lower of the Atc so I wondered which price sources you used to claim the opposite.
 
I would say that these large studio speakers from ATC and Genelec are in the same ballpark when it comes to price. If a private person can afford a pair of loudspeakers for 47.000,00 €, I’m sure the stretch to 55.000,00 € wouldn't be a problem. :)

The thing is that both these speakers are aimed at large studios that will likely write them off as studio tools, so the price difference is probably seen as a drop in the sea, and it all comes down to which one they prefer as a studio tool.
 
I considered of course the pair price and that of the Genelec is lower of the Atc so I wondered which price sources you used to claim the opposite.
To tell the truth it was a misread (I read euro instead of pounds on the first pic,power of habit)

I then searched and asked about street prices,so...

I stand corrected though.

(They are a bit cheaper in UK,about 50k if I got the pound price right)

 
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Can’t give you statistics but I had to double up on the number of 850s in my setup due to rattling cones developing after only a few months of use even though my setup reaches the required SPL for atmos mixing on paper. I know a few people who have repeatedly replaced 750 drivers and Neumann are saying it’s a ‘software issue’. I’ve also had three KH310 woofers break on me. Sure the drivers are working very hard but this isn’t an issue on ATC’s speakers. I reckon it’s probably due to the heavy EQing going on in Neumann speakers combined with drivers which are too small to be reproducing deep bass.

Never seen these kind of failure rates with Genelec atmos rooms.
FWIW, the 15s with the foam surround are not particularly durable. Seen a bunch of them fail.
 
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