Eve audio Exo-series

[jonas n]

Hello!

I'm Jonas and this is my first post. Have been lurking here for a while with great interest in the more objective approach to speaker evaluation. I'm making music as a hobby and have used and owned a few the studio monitors reviewed on this forum over the years. The reviews (Adam, Genelec, KRK) are a learning experience and for sure confirms some of my own experiences with speakers in the studio. A fun thing is that I recommended some KEF speakers and an amp to my brother who works with music professionally, advising him to read the reviews on them here. So this site matters, I believe, also for professionals. I myself for now use the Yamaha HS8 and their sound signature seem to fit my hearing ok, but I can't stand their hiss/buzz (believe me - I've done my homework on why they behave that way in certain settings). Anyhow, I ran into an advert for new and upcoming Eve Audio monitors that may be promising. No more data than simple frequency graphs on the website for now. Perhaps a prospect for future measurements here!

EVE Audio

www.eve-audio.com

edit: of course I'm not affiliated with said manufacturer, just a punter

 

[Klonatans]

They look promising indeed. The graph of the largest speaker, if it can be trusted, seems pretty even, goes flat all the way to 40 Hz, and the control app is a nice bonus. Hopefully there will more measurements available.

 

[unpluggged]

An interesting waveguide shape for the AMT, at last. But they are too late to the party, I fear, and the FR in the low end is not very impressive for an 8-incher. The SPL seems to be decent, though. They are also surprisingly ugly

 

[anphex]

Hello!

I'm Jonas and this is my first post. Have been lurking here for a while with great interest in the more objective approach to speaker evaluation. I'm making music as a hobby and have used and owned a few the studio monitors reviewed on this forum over the years. The reviews (Adam, Genelec, KRK) are a learning experience and for sure confirms some of my own experiences with speakers in the studio. A fun thing is that I recommended some KEF speakers and an amp to my brother who works with music professionally, advising him to read the reviews on them here. So this site matters, I believe, also for professionals. I myself for now use the Yamaha HS8 and their sound signature seem to fit my hearing ok, but I can't stand their hiss/buzz (believe me - I've done my homework on why they behave that way in certain settings). Anyhow, I ran into an advert for new and upcoming Eve Audio monitors that may be promising. No more data than simple frequency graphs on the website for now. Perhaps a prospect for future measurements here!

EVE Audio

www.eve-audio.com

edit: of course I'm not affiliated with said manufacturer, just a punter

Rule of missing data in product specs.

If something is not explicitely mentioned or presented, it's probably bad.
In this case, where's the radiation pattern and distortion graph?

If a manufacturer cherry picks, you know there is something to hide, and since getting to know ASR I've become very sensitive to that.

 

[Grotti]

The crossover point is 2200 Hertz which seems quite high for a 8" midwoofer even with the waveguide for the tweeter. Could be the reason why they don't share directivity graphs. Not a big deal in the nearfield or a well treated room but not good in a normal listening environment at home. And yes, they are ugly....

 

[Grotti]

Price is 899 €/piece:

EVE Audio EXO 28

EVE Audio EXO 28; aktiver 2-Wege Monitor; 8" (200 mm) Tieftöner mit beschichteter Aluminium CAL Membran (CAL: coated aluminum); EXO Precision AirMotion-Hochtöner mit GDC-Waveguide; Frequenzbereich: 37 Hz - 24 kHz; max SPL: 126 dB spl (1m, half space...

www.thomann.de

 

[Arindal]

An interesting waveguide shape for the AMT, at last.

Interesting definitely. But waveguides for AMTs are one of the unsolved riddles of speaker engineering. They can look fine and show perfect measurements but sound like a tin megaphone.

Sincerely hope Eve Audio have cracked this nut. Something about the bowel shape arises some doubts. Curious what people have to say who have actually listened to them.

 

[jonas n]

Rule of missing data in product specs.

If something is not explicitely mentioned or presented, it's probably bad.
In this case, where's the radiation pattern and distortion graph?

If a manufacturer cherry picks, you know there is something to hide, and since getting to know ASR I've become very sensitive to that.

Hence it would be fun to seem them measured here!

 

[Scholl]

I own flush mounted EVE Audio SC3010, which are large three way speakers with a big AMT tweeter crossed at 1800Hz. Comparable to the KH420. I think those speakers are very good in a studio setting, especially for their affordable price. But I always thought the rest of Eve's range was a bit lacklustre, or could easily be improved.

Most notably :

- Lack of digital input despite being DSP speakers
- Lack of precise Room EQ corrections despite, again, being DSP speakers
- Lack of a waveguide, which, beside reducing edge diffraction and improving directivity, can especially help the tweeter with the SPL gain provided in the 1k to 4k range where AMT tweeters often struggle.

Those new Exo models seem to solve most of those issues, and I think Eve should revise all of their other speakers with those improvements over time in order to remain competitive.

I agree those look quite ugly though. I suppose it has to do with cost reducing manufacturing methods. The waveguide is a bit cheap looking and not as well integrated with the rest of the speaker compared to Neumann or Genelec. 899€ for their 8" model is quite reasonable though.

 

[Arindal]

Lack of a waveguide, which, beside reducing edge diffraction and improving directivity, can especially help the tweeter with the SPL gain provided in the 1k to 4k range where AMT tweeters often struggle.

As mentioned, AMTs are very peculiar when it comes to implementing a waveguide. It might look tempting just spec-wise to do it, but many combinations simply sound strange.

 

[voodooless]

If something is not explicitely mentioned or presented, it's probably bad.
In this case, where's the radiation pattern and distortion graph?

Never mind the 100 dB scale on the on-axis response . That can make every speaker look flat.

 

[Tio]

Hello!

I'm Jonas and this is my first post. Have been lurking here for a while with great interest in the more objective approach to speaker evaluation. I'm making music as a hobby and have used and owned a few the studio monitors reviewed on this forum over the years. The reviews (Adam, Genelec, KRK) are a learning experience and for sure confirms some of my own experiences with speakers in the studio. A fun thing is that I recommended some KEF speakers and an amp to my brother who works with music professionally, advising him to read the reviews on them here. So this site matters, I believe, also for professionals. I myself for now use the Yamaha HS8 and their sound signature seem to fit my hearing ok, but I can't stand their hiss/buzz (believe me - I've done my homework on why they behave that way in certain settings). Anyhow, I ran into an advert for new and upcoming Eve Audio monitors that may be promising. No more data than simple frequency graphs on the website for now. Perhaps a prospect for future measurements here!

EVE Audio

www.eve-audio.com

edit: of course I'm not affiliated with said manufacturer, just a punter

I used HS8 in my living room for a short duration, but I don't remember hearing a loud hiss or buzz. I also owned HS5 for a while and never had an issue with it. I have never read someone complaining about this issue on the Yamaha HS series. Too bad this happen to you.

 

[jonas n]

I used HS8 in my living room for a short duration, but I don't remember hearing a loud hiss or buzz. I also owned HS5 for a while and never had an issue with it. I have never read someone complaining about this issue on the Yamaha HS series. Too bad this happen to you.

I've owned HS5 as well and no problems there. Actually the HS8's perform great in other rooms but not in bedroom. Typical computer noise interference through tweeters and I've tried isolate the issue deductively but no go (different outlets/cables, unplugged, computer and phone away and so on). I'm sitting in the nearfield just a meter or so from them, so the noise is there albeit faint. Listening to them at a distance is no problem.

 

[Scholl]

Je me demande s’ils vont produire un caisson de basses dsp...

I understand French, but since it is an English speaking forum you should translate your post.

Eve already offer four models of DSP subwoofers : 7", 8", 10" and 12". They are all passive radiator designs.

EDIT : The post above seems to have been removed after I replied.

EVE Audio - Subwoofers

The EVE Audio subwoofers extend the low frequencies of our monitor range all the way down for professional studios that rely on a strong low-end

www.eve-audio.com

 

[Gianni gio]

Yes sorry , actual EVE's subwoofer don't have the same technologies of DSP. I hope à better subwoofer integration like neumann KH series ;-)
It' maybe coming soon ...

 

[AnalogSteph]

I've owned HS5 as well and no problems there. Actually the HS8's perform great in other rooms but not in bedroom. Typical computer noise interference through tweeters and I've tried isolate the issue deductively but no go (different outlets/cables, unplugged, computer and phone away and so on).

Unfortunately the HS series seems to suffer from multiple constructive issues that could cause interference. Pin 1 Problem? Check. Poor RF shielding? Check. I suppose you could run your audio through a Behringer HD400 and cover the sides in Al foil (yes, this does seem to help).

Interesting definitely. But waveguides for AMTs are one of the unsolved riddles of speaker engineering. They can look fine and show perfect measurements but sound like a tin megaphone.

So you say... it's like shoving a square peg into a round hole?

BTW, "show perfect measurements" and "sound like a tin megaphone" should be mutually exclusive. Otherwise you've been measuring the wrong thing or processed the data / interpreted the results incorrectly. If FR under angle does not show anything suspicious, maybe a look at CSD or similar would be warranted.