ADAM Audio D3V specs price ?

[bennybbbx]

here can see how i record the audio examples for d3v. to have perfect phase align in stereo. you need switch the snap to grid 1/2 bar or 1 bar on your audio software. I use 3 mono tracks in DAW and the 2 wav files are put as see in screenshot. Tempo need set to 118 so Bar grid snap work correct. then you can choose with the slider on "original out" track knob if you want use your left or right speaker. first is played left channel then right channel on the speaker you choose with panorama Slider. both elements are record with "in left" channel as 1 Element. Now cut the recordet from "in left" at bar 44(in this screenshot example) so you get 2 elements. The element that begin at bar 44 should move to bar 37 to "In right" track . in the mixer setting "in left" is pan to full left and "in right" is pan to full right

it is always usefull when do changes or compares to record audio and hear ABX whats more near to original. when record with measure microphone always sound diffrent because ears are not omnidirectional, so records with measure microphone collect more room reverb. I place the microphone at hearing position in the middle and tweeter is at ear height and measure microphone too.

the desk switch setting in d3v help also to increase sound when use no speaker correction. it reduce the boom also reduce some mids.

 

[Kwya]

Has anyone been able to compare the D3Vs to the Kali LP-UNF ? I'm really torn between the two and have been asking / lurking around for information somewhat everywhere in the last few days.

I know that this question has been asked on the 4th page on this topic, but there was no answer and it was almost a month ago ahah

The bigger driver of the LP-UNFs should provide better low frequency response than the D3V, but what about a scenario in which I would upgrade the setup with a sub ? Would the D3V win this contest because of it's twitter, seeing as a sub would compensate what it's lacking in the bass department ? Meanwhile, the LP-UNFs might end up lacking in the higher frequencies with a sub added to it ?
The choice is very difficult to make without a proper comparison...

EDIT : For information, I mainly listen to and play house/deep house/tech house/nu disco/funk/indie dance.

 

[denzel200219]

Has anyone been able to compare the D3Vs to the Kali LP-UNF ? I'm really torn between the two and have been asking / lurking around for information somewhat everywhere in the last few days.

I know that this question has been asked on the 4th page on this topic, but there was no answer and it was almost a month ago ahah

The bigger driver of the LP-UNFs should provide better low frequency response than the D3V, but what about a scenario in which I would upgrade the setup with a sub ? Would the D3V win this contest because of it's twitter, seeing as a sub would compensate what it's lacking in the bass department ? Meanwhile, the LP-UNFs might end up lacking in the higher frequencies with a sub added to it ?
The choice is very difficult to make without a proper comparison...

EDIT : For information, I mainly listen to and play house/deep house/tech house/nu disco/funk/indie dance.

The truth is that both the D3V and LP-UNF are very close in performance and any difference would be hard to notice in terms of tonality, neutrality and accuracy. The LP-UNF does have more bass because of the larger driver which would probably be the only noticeable difference that would stand out. Erin from Erin Audio Corner personally uses the Kali LP-UNF in his desk setup and he is one of the most technical speaker reviewers so that should tell you something.

 

[Kwya]

Hello Denzel

Thanks for you answer ! I know that Erin has been using the LP-UNFs in his setup since he tested them, but he also hasn't tested the D3Vs yet. For all we know, he might end up saying that the D3Vs are his new favorite in this price range after testing and measuring them.

Otherwise, I was kind of expecting the high-end to be better on the D3Vs because of the ribbon twitter

 

[Palladium]

The D3V is an excellent speaker system. I truly liked them but they’re just too big for frequent travel.

I liked them better than most of the monitors I have personally heard (KH120 II, 8351, 305P, iLoud MM, T5V, LP-UNF/LP6 v2). The only monitor IMO thats better by a large margin are self-calibrated iLoud Precision 6s.

 

[Kwya]

I liked them better than most of the monitors I have personally heard (KH120 II, 8351, 305P, iLoud MM, T5V, LP-UNF/LP6 v2). The only monitor IMO thats better by a large margin are self-calibrated iLoud Precision 6s.

You are the very first person I come accross that has actually tested both the Kali LP-UNF and the Adam Audio D3V ! You might be my savior ahah

How would you compare them, would you recommend one over the other ?

 

[Palladium]

You are the very first person I come accross that has actually tested both the Kali LP-UNF and the Adam Audio D3V ! You might be my savior ahah

How would you compare them, would you recommend one over the other ?

Uncalibrated? I take D3V any day of the week.

 

[Kwya]

Even for a use case like mine where I mostly listen to, play and mix Deep House/Tech House/Nu Disco/Indie Dance ? The only thing holding me back from getting the D3Vs over the LP-UNFs is the low end / bass (39Hz @-10dB vs 45Hz @-3dB ?). Hence why I'm also considering to upgrade the setup with a sub if necessary in the upcoming months.

 

[Palladium]

Even for a use case like mine where I mostly listen to, play and mix Deep House/Tech House/Nu Disco/Indie Dance ? The only thing holding me back from getting the D3Vs over the LP-UNFs is the low end / bass (39Hz @-10dB vs 45Hz @-3dB ?). Hence why I'm also considering to upgrade the setup with a sub if necessary in the upcoming months.

That's hard for me to answer because I'm not into super bass heavy music, sorry.

 

[Kwya]

That's hard for me to answer because I'm not into super bass heavy music, sorry.

No problem, thanks for your time ! It really is a close call between these two.

 

[bennybbbx]

Even for a use case like mine where I mostly listen to, play and mix Deep House/Tech House/Nu Disco/Indie Dance ? The only thing holding me back from getting the D3Vs over the LP-UNFs is the low end / bass (39Hz @-10dB vs 45Hz @-3dB ?). Hence why I'm also considering to upgrade the setup with a sub if necessary in the upcoming months.

ADAM Audio - D3V Aktiver Desktop-Monitor [Paar]

Die stylischen D3Vs wurden für Songwriter, Producer und Musikliebhaber:innen entwickelt. Sie lassen sich per USB-C anschließen, bieten vielfältige Kalibrierungsfunktionen und eine für ihre Größe bemerkenswerte akustische Performance.

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you need click in acoustics to see this values on adam page . there can also read that crossover is 4 khz

the d3v is list with @ -3 db 48-22.6 kHz
@ -6 dB: 45 Hz – 23,2 kHz


the lp unf is list https://www.kaliaudio.com/lp-unf#Specs-Section-Independence

Frequency Response (-10 dB):	39 Hz - 25 kHz
Frequency Range (±3 dB):	54 Hz - 21 kHz

so in -3db the d3v rules in the specs from the factory
in the erin measure can see the UNF is a little lower than 45 hz - 6 db.

I can only say that such a small front bass port speaker might have lots port noise. I really like see a distortion measure of the bass port

 

[Ogunya]

I also got the D3V. The power brick, which came with the speakers is the cheapest I ever saw and I changed it with Meanwell 24v 2.5a. Here is a link if anyone want to hear a recording. The high shelf is set to -1.5 and no recording at flat Recorded with a single cheap ECM999 (still better then a phone). https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C9NLvfkmLQo41phA88YDizy0GkZ2SLNI/view

 

[bennybbbx]

I also got the D3V. The power brick, which came with the speakers is the cheapest I ever saw and I changed it with Meanwell 24v 2.5a. Here is a link if anyone want to hear a recording. The high shelf is set to -1.5 and no recording at flat Recorded with a single cheap ECM999 (still better then a phone). https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C9NLvfkmLQo41phA88YDizy0GkZ2SLNI/view

audio records are always good for compare. but you can use them only to compare with the other speakers you have. because room have very much influence to sound. have you other speakers and which ? and can you audio record them too ?

you can also hear if the better power supply help when you compare the recorded with foobar 2000 ABX utility. I hear kick drum distortions when boost 30-70 hz 10 db and hear loud and no red light show(this should indicate clipping). this question is still not answer. how a 24 volt 2.5 A power supply can give such high RMS as ithey write in spec. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...dio-d3v-specs-price.57557/page-3#post-2113034

maybe a 24 volt 4 ampere power supply is even more better and give no clipping when Limiter not Limit. here is the manual that shgow what the power LED can indicate. There is also a firmwaere update possible. maybe because it is DSP it is possible with 4 button presses to delay the tweeter 200 µsec switch on and off. then it is good time align with no tilt

because it have a USB input i do when i have lots of time a audio record with USB input and analog input if there can hear diffrence. I can also add the t.racks mini dsp to the test and do all EQ 0 so it should do nothing. then signal is DA convert from focusrite then AD DA convert from t.racks then AD convert from the D3V. before save the audio records as wav should always do a normalize so it is same loud. my audio records wav i upload are 24 bit 48 khz

 

[Ogunya]

audio recocords are always good for compare. but you can use them only to compare with the other speakers you have. because room have very much influence to sound. have you other speakers and which ? and can you audio record them too ?

Yes, you are right. This recording is also not very good with a very small portable stand on the desk with the mic pointing at the ceiling. I do have normal stand and can point the mic better, but not much worth the time I need to spend as this quick recording took 5 minutes For other speakers, on the same location where the D3V are, I have Focal Solo 6, Focal Shape 50 and Adam A77H with Focal Sub6 connected to all of these 3. On different locations in the apartment I have Eve SC307, Yamaha MSP5, Alpha 80, Alpha evo 65 with Yamaha sub HS8S and I do have the small IK iLoud. If you have an interest to compare any of the speakers around the D3V maybe I can make the recordings.

 

[bennybbbx]

Yes, you are right. This recording is also not very good with a very small portable stand on the desk with the mic pointing at the ceiling. I do have normal stand and can point the mic better, but not much worth the time I need to spend as this quick recording took 5 minutes For other speakers, on the same location where the D3V are, I have Focal Solo 6, Focal Shape 50 and Adam A77H with Focal Sub6 connected to all of these 3. On different locations in the apartment I have Eve SC307, Yamaha MSP5, Alpha 80, Alpha evo 65 with Yamaha sub HS8S and I do have the small IK iLoud. If you have an interest to compare any of the speakers around the D3V maybe I can make the recordings.

the recording is good enough you only should record other speakers at same position to compare good. I edit my above post and write more explain. I understand time is short but to decide which is best speaker such records help you to do the right choose of speaker. when record in stereo(see how this can do with 1 microphone) you can also decide stereo imaging if better or not. if somebody want not use a DAW he can also upload the test record that output first left channel then right channel

ADAM Audio D3V specs price ?

here can see how i record the audio examples for d3v. to have perfect phase align in stereo. you need switch the snap to grid 1/2 bar or 1 bar on your audio software. I use 3 mono tracks in DAW and the 2 wav files are put as see in screenshot. Tempo need set to 118 so Bar grid snap work...

www.audiosciencereview.com

for stereo can also use this testpiece. it output first left channel then right channel on same speaker. you need pan on your playback which speaker(left or right) . when upload then i or other can create easy in a DAW phase correct stereo record and upload it

the testpiece use a guitar for that reason because on guitar you hear most easy wrong time align of tweeter to woofer. when wrong time align it sound muddy because high freq of guitar do not fit to low freq. so phase effect can hear easy when compare to original

 

[Ogunya]

the recording is good enough you only should record other speakers at same position to compare good. I edit my above post and write more explain. I understand time is short but to decide which is best speaker such records help you to do the right choose of speaker. when record in stereo(see how this can do with 1 microphone) you can also decide stereo imaging if better or not. if somebody want not use a DAW he can also upload the test record that output first left channel then right channel

ADAM Audio D3V specs price ?

here can see how i record the audio examples for d3v. to have perfect phase align in stereo. you need switch the snap to grid 1/2 bar or 1 bar on your audio software. I use 3 mono tracks in DAW and the 2 wav files are put as see in screenshot. Tempo need set to 118 so Bar grid snap work...

www.audiosciencereview.com

for stereo can also use this testpiece. it output first left channel then right channel on same speaker. you need pan on your playback which speaker(left or right) . when upload then i or other can create easy in a DAW phase correct stereo record and upload it

the testpiece use a guitar for that reason because on guitar you hear most easy wrong time align of tweeter to woofer. when wrong time align it sound muddy because high freq of guitar do not fit to low freq. so phase effect can hear easy when compare to original

Ah I don't wanna bother with power supply comparisons for the D3V, I did several before for a friend to checkout super capacitor sound, linear power supply sound and cheaper to more expensive adapters. I just couldn't stand the low quality on the one, which came with the D3V and I changed it with a little better one so it don't bother me.

The stereo trick with one mic I was thinking about it, but I needed also the proper stand, position, levels and the time, which I didn't had as I am with a little kid. Time frame for such fun stuff is limited now haha.

Here is btw how the setup looks (picture attached), also the D3V plays only through an ifi dac. The rest of the speakers play through Prism Sound Lyra 2. Also each speaker do have different eq to accommodate how I like to listen to them. Many of these things if you try to think about and want to make somewhat decent test is lots of time and effort, which frankly I am not willing to do, but I can do simple (not so good) recordings as I did initially for the D3V.

 

[bennybbbx]

you can in your situation all speakers for test record put on the right low desktop stand where the focal is . this can do weeks or so later for example when wait for a visitors or so which is delayed. it help you too, maybe you notice that some of your speakers you need not anymore and you can sell it . I have some speakers but i use only 1 . currently the d3v. all other i can now sell or give away, but this also cost time(much more as do audio records) and i am too lazy to do this. I need the money not. so they stand in room not connectetd. maybe when i am in other room the 6,5 inch speakers kali LP6 or focal alpha 65 evo sound better.

 

[holdingpants01]

There's a pretty positive video review of D3V, only in Polish but the measurements are self explanatory, seems pretty cool and I'm close to getting a pair as a replacement of 8330 for mobile monitoring, nothing critical

 

[bennybbbx]

here is audio record so you can verify in foobar 2000 ABX if you hear diffrence between the digital connect of the D3v and analog with multiple DA AD conversions . microphone and speaker in this tests exact on same position in both tests(not move) . samplerate is 48 khz and 24 bit output in focusrite. in the t.racks all EQ settings to 0 db. I do this test mono because the d3v USB audio have no ASIO driver and windows report not correct buffer size in windpws audio, so sample exact phase which is need for stereo was not possible.

the conversions are in the analog version
1. DA from focusrite 8i6o
2. AD from t-racks mini dsp
3 DA from t.racks mini DSP
4. AD from the D3V

I also test if the power supply is enough for the speakers. i make so loud and with 12 db 40 hz Q1 boost until i hear clipping of kickdrum when both speakers play. then i hear left and right channel only. clipping i hear same when use full left or full right. Only no clipping light i see. if power supply is not good enough then when play only with 1 speaker clipping should gone because power supply is used by both speakers. and when only 1 speaker need play then need less power

 

[Ogunya]

here is audio record so you can verify in foobar 2000 ABX if you hear diffrence between the digital connect of the D3v and analog with multiple DA AD conversions . microphone and speaker in this tests exact on same position in both tests(not move) . samplerate is 48 khz and 24 bit output in focusrite. in the t.racks all EQ settings to 0 db. I do this test mono because the d3v USB audio have no ASIO driver and windows report not correct buffer size in windpws audio, so sample exact phase which is need for stereo was not possible.

the conversions are in the analog version
1. DA from focusrite 8i6o
2. AD from t-racks mini dsp
3 DA from t.racks mini DSP
4. AD from the D3V

I also test if the power supply is enough for the speakers. i make so loud and with 12 db 40 hz Q1 boost until i hear clipping of kickdrum when both speakers play. then i hear left and right channel only. clipping i hear same when use full left or full right. Only no clipping light i see. if power supply is not good enough then when play only with 1 speaker clipping should gone because power supply is used by both speakers. and when only 1 speaker need play then need less power

Thanks. I like the AD from the D3V more based on these two recordings. If this mini dsp is the one with two inputs and four outputs I had it temporary before and I never like the sound quality out of it as it sounded always compressed and sound wise like old cheaper 16bit dac.