• WANTED: Happy members who like to discuss audio and other topics related to our interest. Desire to learn and share knowledge of science required. There are many reviews of audio hardware and expert members to help answer your questions. Click here to have your audio equipment measured for free!

Buckeye Amps: New US based Hypex multichannel amplifier builder, line-up announcement!

jjmcubed

Member
Forum Donor
Joined
Nov 17, 2020
Messages
30
Likes
24
Location
Sacramento, CA
First Craigslist buy. Caveat emptor and all that jazz. Saving up for my next Buckeye. Any information on your logo? Happy this has been successful for you. You're helping out the community, so glad people are supporting you. If I remember correctly the discount for multiple amps is 50%, right?









Teasing about the discount amount. Please don't ask him for a 50% discount.
 

MarkWayne

Member
Joined
Dec 27, 2019
Messages
10
Likes
10
Just received my 2 Ch 502 in the Ghent case today. It's out in the garage burning in on my workbench system. Tomorrow it goes into my main kit and will be driving a pair of Tekton Lore Reference towers. I'm moving the IOTAVX SA3/PA3 stack it replaces into another room to become the foundation for a dedicated vinyl setup. I'm pretty excited!

Interested to hear your thoughts once you have it hooked up to your main system. Will you be using a preamp?
 

Rottmannash

Major Contributor
Forum Donor
Joined
Nov 11, 2020
Messages
2,986
Likes
2,633
Location
Nashville
Just received my 2 Ch 502 in the Ghent case today. It's out in the garage burning in on my workbench system. Tomorrow it goes into my main kit and will be driving a pair of Tekton Lore Reference towers. I'm moving the IOTAVX SA3/PA3 stack it replaces into another room to become the foundation for a dedicated vinyl setup. I'm pretty excited!
Burning in? Is that a thing in Class D amps?
 
OP
Buckeye Amps

Buckeye Amps

Major Contributor
Audio Company
Forum Donor
Joined
May 28, 2020
Messages
1,673
Likes
6,588
So, I have begun an initial look into Purifi offerings. But the pricing on their website doesn't seem accurate as based on the price breaks I'd not be able to compete with VTV (whereas with my Hypex offerings I am able to compete closely while still making profit). So I emailed them for further information.

That said, if I went that route it would be Stereo only using the EVAL1 boards. Is this something people would still be interested in or would they need to have third-party input buffers/OP amps?
 

Doodski

Grand Contributor
Forum Donor
Joined
Dec 9, 2019
Messages
21,610
Likes
21,886
Location
Canada
So, I have begun an initial look into Purifi offerings. But the pricing on their website doesn't seem accurate as based on the price breaks I'd not be able to compete with VTV (whereas with my Hypex offerings I am able to compete closely while still making profit). So I emailed them for further information.

That said, if I went that route it would be Stereo only using the EVAL1 boards. Is this something people would still be interested in or would they need to have third-party input buffers/OP amps?
Having the speaker banana jacks and XLR connectors mounted directly on the PCB creates a long term reliability issue. The solder joints or the PCB can break. It's better having them mounted on the chassis.
EVAL1-Users-Guide-1.25-04.png
 

amper42

Major Contributor
Forum Donor
Joined
Dec 21, 2020
Messages
1,661
Likes
2,452
So, I have begun an initial look into Purifi offerings. But the pricing on their website doesn't seem accurate as based on the price breaks I'd not be able to compete with VTV (whereas with my Hypex offerings I am able to compete closely while still making profit). So I emailed them for further information.

That said, if I went that route it would be Stereo only using the EVAL1 boards. Is this something people would still be interested in or would they need to have third-party input buffers/OP amps?

EVAL1 EIGENTAKT Purifi design is preferred by most. The other optional OP amp choices raise prices while adding little if anything. In fact, in most cases they measured worse than the EVAL1 with the OPA1612 differential input buffer. If the banana jacks and XLR connectors were mounted directly to the Chassis that would offer a better built option.
 

Rottmannash

Major Contributor
Forum Donor
Joined
Nov 11, 2020
Messages
2,986
Likes
2,633
Location
Nashville
Having the speaker banana jacks and XLR connectors mounted directly on the PCB creates a long term reliability issue. The solder joints or the PCB can break. It's better having them mounted on the chassis.
EVAL1-Users-Guide-1.25-04.png
If one never plugs<>unplugs the XLR cables and/or the speaker cables?
 

Doodski

Grand Contributor
Forum Donor
Joined
Dec 9, 2019
Messages
21,610
Likes
21,886
Location
Canada
If one never plugs<>unplugs the XLR cables and/or the speaker cables?
The weight alone of speaker cables and the XLRs will cause stress, cracked joints and tear the PCB traces right off the PCB and if somebody tugs or trips over a cable it's all over for that PCB.
 

Dundas

Member
Forum Donor
Joined
Oct 14, 2020
Messages
66
Likes
60
Location
Ontario, Canada
That said, if I went that route it would be Stereo only using the EVAL1 boards. Is this something people would still be interested in or would they need to have third-party input buffers/OP amps?

You could also make a nice 3 channel for home theater use using the EVAL 2 and SMPS3KA400 power supply.
 
Last edited:

TomekNet

Member
Joined
Nov 30, 2020
Messages
88
Likes
96
Location
Warsaw, Poland
So, I have begun an initial look into Purifi offerings. But the pricing on their website doesn't seem accurate as based on the price breaks I'd not be able to compete with VTV (whereas with my Hypex offerings I am able to compete closely while still making profit). So I emailed them for further information.

That said, if I went that route it would be Stereo only using the EVAL1 boards. Is this something people would still be interested in or would they need to have third-party input buffers/OP amps?

I believe there would be two reasons to go EVAL2 / 3-party buffer route:
- possibility to set custom gain / sensitivity levels (see how Audiophonics do that)
- having option to offer 3-channel amps for LCR speakers (I might even switch from C298 + MPA-M400ET setup)
 

Billy Budapest

Major Contributor
Forum Donor
Joined
Oct 11, 2019
Messages
1,855
Likes
2,778
So, I have begun an initial look into Purifi offerings. But the pricing on their website doesn't seem accurate as based on the price breaks I'd not be able to compete with VTV (whereas with my Hypex offerings I am able to compete closely while still making profit). So I emailed them for further information.

That said, if I went that route it would be Stereo only using the EVAL1 boards. Is this something people would still be interested in or would they need to have third-party input buffers/OP amps?
Interested.
 

thegeton

Addicted to Fun and Learning
Forum Donor
Joined
Aug 20, 2020
Messages
934
Likes
3,315
Location
Manchester, WA
Burning in? Is that a thing in Class D amps?

I don't know if its a thing in Class D amps, but as an experienced engineer I consider it a best practice that I like to do with any new electronics where possible.
 

Rottmannash

Major Contributor
Forum Donor
Joined
Nov 11, 2020
Messages
2,986
Likes
2,633
Location
Nashville
The weight alone of speaker cables and the XLRs will cause stress, cracked joints and tear the PCB traces right off the PCB and if somebody tugs or trips over a cable it's all over for that PCB.
What if I use the SpeakOns instead?
 

Dundas

Member
Forum Donor
Joined
Oct 14, 2020
Messages
66
Likes
60
Location
Ontario, Canada
What if I use the SpeakOns instead?
With the EVAL boards you do not have to use the circuit board mounted banana jacks. You could use rear panel mounted speaker connectors (banana or speakon) but it would probably cost a more money as it may require soldering something Buckeye is not currently doing. Also the EVAL XLRs can be attached to the back panel.
 
Last edited:

Rottmannash

Major Contributor
Forum Donor
Joined
Nov 11, 2020
Messages
2,986
Likes
2,633
Location
Nashville
With the EVAL boards you do not have to use the circuit board mounted banana jacks. You could use rear panel mounted speaker connectors (banana or speakon) but it would probably cost a more money as it may require soldering something Buckeye is not currently doing. Also the EVAL XLRs can be attached to the back panel.
Sorry-I have the VTV Purifi Eval 1 amp and it has both speaker terminals. I was wondering if using the SpeakOn terminals would put less strain on the board.
 

Billy Budapest

Major Contributor
Forum Donor
Joined
Oct 11, 2019
Messages
1,855
Likes
2,778
Sorry-I have the VTV Purifi Eval 1 amp and it has both speaker terminals. I was wondering if using the SpeakOn terminals would put less strain on the board.
Yes, because the Speakon terminals are connected to the chassis, not the board.
 

Dundas

Member
Forum Donor
Joined
Oct 14, 2020
Messages
66
Likes
60
Location
Ontario, Canada
Sorry-I have the VTV Purifi Eval 1 amp and it has both speaker terminals. I was wondering if using the SpeakOn terminals would put less strain on the board.
I was talking about about potential Buckeye builds but I don't think you should be worried about this issue. IMHO modifying it to change to Speakons would be a waste of money.
Here is a picture of an EVAL 1 with soldered panel mount banana jacks:
10.jpg
 

thegeton

Addicted to Fun and Learning
Forum Donor
Joined
Aug 20, 2020
Messages
934
Likes
3,315
Location
Manchester, WA
Interested to hear your thoughts once you have it hooked up to your main system. Will you be using a preamp?

So far I'm very happy with the results. The setup is a Bluesound Node 2i as the source connected via coax (S/PDIF) to a Topping DAC (D50s/P50 combo). Then RCA unbalanced out from the D50s to RCA unbalanced in on a Schiit Magnius (using this as a preamp). Then Balanced XLR output of the Magnius into Balanced input on the Buckeye. Finally the Buckeye is outputting directly into the Tekton Lore Reference pair.

It sounds quite different from the IOTAVX based system. There are some notable improvements and some other changes (upper midrange, extended treble) I'm still evaluating. Most noticeable: the bass has been massively improved from both a timbre and control perspective. Cleaner, punchier, faster - amazing.

More to come as I get more time to evaluate.
 

Guddu

Addicted to Fun and Learning
Joined
Feb 10, 2020
Messages
853
Likes
718
I was talking about about potential Buckeye builds but I don't think you should be worried about this issue. IMHO modifying it to change to Speakons would be a waste of money.
Here is a picture of an EVAL 1 with soldered panel mount banana jacks:
View attachment 111559

Is it VTV Purify amp?
 

Attachments

  • Untitled.jpg
    Untitled.jpg
    185.7 KB · Views: 206
Last edited:
Top Bottom