Why can't we just ignore inane audio threads?

[DanielT]

Nealy all the back pages in DACs.here's a couple,just read before couple of pages before my posts (opamp rolling in Fosi's and AIYIMA's too!)

Aiyima A07 Max - Aiyima's new TPA3255 amplifier with mono/stereo output

You are correct that the cost is expensive for the amp and the op-amps, but the outcome you get for audio clarity and sound stage presence is unbelievable. I'm sure that's your perception based on uncontrolled listening. Whether you'd still be able to hear it in controlled listening (so a...

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Topping E30 II DAC Review

...I have one I would send to someone..

www.audiosciencereview.com

Sokel, WTF? I'm really trying to understand, read a few pages before your posts. Que? Which posts then? Better that you point to post #X otherwise it feels more like ....

 

[Sgt. Ear Ache]

Nealy all the back pages in DACs.here's a couple,just read before couple of pages before my posts (opamp rolling in Fosi's and AIYIMA's too!)

Aiyima A07 Max - Aiyima's new TPA3255 amplifier with mono/stereo output

You are correct that the cost is expensive for the amp and the op-amps, but the outcome you get for audio clarity and sound stage presence is unbelievable. I'm sure that's your perception based on uncontrolled listening. Whether you'd still be able to hear it in controlled listening (so a...

www.audiosciencereview.com

Topping E30 II DAC Review

...I have one I would send to someone..

www.audiosciencereview.com

I read a little bit back. I don't even see SINAD mentioned at all...sorry.

 

[Sokel]

Sokel, WTF? I'm really trying to understand, read a few pages before your posts. Que? Which posts then? Better that you point to post #X otherwise it feels more like ....

Did you read the op amp rolling thing I protested about?Isn't that enough?
Isn't it the same old stuff just throwing an op amp in this little things without measurements,documentation,etc?

The other thread?I'm I wrong?The thread I refereed to in that post in addition?

They all imply better SQ/"differences",etc.

 

[Sgt. Ear Ache]

Did you read the op amp rolling thing I protested about?Isn't that enough?
Isn't it the same old stuff just throwing an op amp in this little things without measurements,documentation,etc?

The other thread?I'm I wrong?The thread I refereed to in that post in addition?

They all imply better SQ/"differences",etc.

I didn't ask for links to threads where people claim to be able to hear differences between stuff. Those are all over the place. I asked for links to people (and more specifically, "ASR people" as opposed to just new members or whatever) saying one dac should be purchased over another based solely on the fact that it has a couple dbs better sinad.

 

[Sokel]

Did you read the op amp rolling thing I protested about?Isn't that enough?
Isn't it the same old stuff just throwing an op amp in this little things without measurements,documentation,etc?

The other thread?I'm I wrong?The thread I refereed to in that post in addition?

They all imply better SQ/"differences",etc.

Read #929,930,931,932 in the Topping thing thread I posted,which is a drop in the ocean.
There are constantly stuff like this.

Just yesterday a member was shouting in a thread that we MUST have 120db SINAD or else havoc and mayhem.
It was so funny I didn't even commented.

 

[DanielT]

Did you read the op amp rolling thing I protested about?Isn't that enough?
Isn't it the same old stuff just throwing an op amp in this little things without measurements,documentation,etc?

The other thread?I'm I wrong?The thread I refereed to in that post in addition?

They all imply better SQ/"differences",etc.

To opamp rolling, or not, that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of objective counterarguments
And by opposing end them...

Replace OP amps. Completely pointless, or not?

Why do so many OPs change amps in, for example, the amplifier AIYIMA A07 TPA3255? What's the point of that? Does not modern OPs amps amplify the signal completely linear straight(if the construction they sit in is well constructed, and made to fit OP amp X)? Do not modern OP amps have a...

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[egellings]

Did you read the op amp rolling thing I protested about?Isn't that enough?
Isn't it the same old stuff just throwing an op amp in this little things without measurements,documentation,etc?

The other thread?I'm I wrong?The thread I refereed to in that post in addition?

They all imply better SQ/"differences",etc.

Op amp rolling can be dangerous. Buddy of mine, a non-engineer nor tech, did that, and he found an op amp that took the harshness and tipped-up HF response away. It really did, because the op amp he used broke into HF oscillation (well above audibility) and fried the tweeters in his speakers.

 

[Ricardus]

The thing I think people need to avoid doing is falling for the bait when a new account starts immediately posting subjective nonsense.

If it's a new account with a low post count there's like a 95% chance it's a troll.

 

[voodooless]

The thing I think people need to avoid doing is falling for the bait when a new account starts immediately posting subjective nonsense.

If it's a new account with a low post count there's like a 95% chance it's a troll.

Well, the earlier you engage, the faster they are gone.

 

[Mr. Widget]

The thing I think people need to avoid doing is falling for the bait when a new account starts immediately posting subjective nonsense.

If it's a new account with a low post count there's like a 95% chance it's a troll.

I guess I'm just an optimist. I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt and assume the posts are based on an honest lack of understanding of the objectivist position here at ASR.

Due to the hard work by Amir and others testing massive amounts of gear that is posted here, if you do a random Google search for a piece of equipment it is not uncommon to be directed to a link to ASR. Coming from almost any other audio site or having read any of the magazines, most new posters are unaware of the objectivist perspective.

 

[steve59]

It makes me wonder. I am just curious about why audio discussions have this sticky ability to draw people in to rehash the exact same ritual debates.

I have quit every other audio forum. But even here, the exact same debates exist, albeit now often focused on the last 1dB of Sinad or such.

The audio community psyche is fascinating. Guess in real life we have either none or one or two people to talk to. But online, hey, let's excacerbate menial differences.

Repeatedly.

Why oh why? We are a ridiculous small group of the population that cares about the exact same thing... music quality. Yet we collectively rehash the same discussions to drive hard and seemingly irreconcilable ritual disagreements.

Personally, because i've currently got nothing better to do.

 

[JeffS7444]

Why oh why? We are a ridiculous small group of the population that cares about the exact same thing... music quality.

For some people, audio equipment can have meaning far beyond mere sound reproduction: A popular metaphor is to regard a series of equipment purchases as a "journey". Or, in the case of particularly costly purchases, even a lifetime achievement reward. With experience, I've gotten better at recognizing such posts, and not devoting much energy to them - let them have their fun! My own hifi past is filled with wrong turns, but some of them were entertaining.

 

[antcollinet]

I guess I'm just an optimist. I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt and assume the posts are based on an honest lack of understanding of the objectivist position here at ASR.

Due to the hard work by Amir and others testing massive amounts of gear that is posted here, if you do a random Google search for a piece of equipment it is not uncommon to be directed to a link to ASR. Coming from almost any other audio site or having read any of the magazines, most new posters are unaware of the objectivist perspective.

This. After a few posts it is normally pretty clear where the discussion is going.

 

[Ricardus]

Well, the earlier you engage, the faster they are gone.

Not from what I've seen. People engage as if they think the people are legit. Then they continue engaging.

 

[antcollinet]

Not from what I've seen. People engage as if they think the people are legit. Then they continue engaging.

Then you've not seen the many times people have engaged with an open mind. The poster has made it clear they are not interested in posting in good faith - and are then either thread banned to have time to take stock - or outright ejected from the forum.