Wharfedale Elysian series

[boogeroo]

Hi guys, I'm new to the forum, I have been lurking around reading measurements of power-amps. Lately I have been developing a deepening itch to get 'better' speakers or 'heavier child-safe' ones as my toddler managed to almost knock over my existing speakers.

My present pair is a Quad Z3, which sounds subjectively better than my previous B&W 603s, the dealer that I bought the Quads from also carry the Wharfedale Elysian range, I had a quick listen and I find the sound very similar to the Quads but with more body or presence for cello passages, however its difficult to find reviews online with detailed measurements, the same is true for the Quad Z3s.

I hope ASR would review something in that series or if someone knows where detailed measurements of the Elysian exist please point me to it, for the price I'd like to feel more confident about its capabilities before ponying up the cash.

Cheers!

 

[FeddyLost]

Only one review with some FR and HD ...

https://wharfedale-deutschland.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/ELysian2_stereoplay_062020.pdf

 

[boogeroo]

Only one review with some FR and HD ...

https://wharfedale-deutschland.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/ELysian2_stereoplay_062020.pdf

Thanks for the link, I don't speak German but using google translate on the various paragraphs seem to suggest the review's take on it is a good one.

Curious why some speakers get so much reviews and some brands almost nothing.

 

[boogeroo]

Welcome! Nice to have you here! Jim Taylor

Thanks Jim!

 

[FeddyLost]

Curious why some speakers get so much reviews and some brands almost nothing.

IMO it's due to different marketing strategy.
If you are from UK or nearby (BW>Quad>Wharfedale?) most probably they are relying on "historical background".
Quad and Elysian must sound close, because they both are IAG brands and I suppose some engineering supervision is done by same people. Or at least engineering targets/performance indicators.

 

[AC1]

Only one review with some FR and HD ...

https://wharfedale-deutschland.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/ELysian2_stereoplay_062020.pdf

That's the second FR graph I see that shows a bit of a HF boost somewhere after 10 kHz, similar to the Denton 85th Anniversary, which can sound too bright sometimes.

 

[FeddyLost]

which can sound too bright sometimes

Check out angled FR in this graph. If it's not a nearfield monitor (big 3-way with spaced drivers usually is not), in furnished room it might sound comfortable.
AMTs w/o waveguides tuned for flat FR in midfields and farfields most probably will sound dull for untrained listeners.

 

[3125b]

Reading between the lines it's a fine speaker but at higher SPL the woofer struggles.

but using google translate

Try https://www.deepl.com/translator

 

[FeddyLost]

but at higher SPL the woofer struggles

It's still single 8" looking very similar to 22W/4534G00, so that's not a surprise.
For sure, it will not handle loud deep bass very good and max spl mentioned 102 Db/m (as we see, AMT also suffers at 100 Db).
So, if one needs more clean bass, there is Elysian 4 with more displacement.

 

[dcolak]

Hey guys, this is how my Elysian 4 measure below 200 Hz. It's very very bass deficient.

Another thing, those 2x8.5" drivers play up to 9 KHz. Connected just the low drivers' module, ran 5KHz, 9KHz and those woofers played them pretty loud.

What is going on with this speaker? Should I never again trust the reviewers?

I hope someone is able to send them to Amir to measure them. Something is terribly wrong with these speakers.