lordhumungous
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For those who have heard the Moondrop S8"s , i'd be interested on their comparison to the Truthear in terms of clarity .
I haven't, but the measurements suggest the Truthear Zeros will have more "clarity" (less at 200 Hz and more beyond 4 kHz).For those who have heard the Moondrop S8"s , i'd be interested on their comparison to the Truthear in terms of clarity .
I don't think they're more or less sensitive to positioning than any other IEMs, they all need a good seal but I think your individual ears are a major factor here. Using these is pretty effortless for me with the right tips, especially since the wires hook behind your ears and stabilize the IEMs.My question to the group is: in light of my some how limited experience with IEM in general, particularly with the “high end” IEM, is it always like that for all of them? Very finicky to get them to sit to sound right? Or are the Zero particularly sensible to how they are positioned in the ears?
I haven't, but the measurements suggest the Truthear Zeros will have more "clarity" (less at 200 Hz and more beyond 4 kHz).
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However, the S8 will sound a little less edgy.
How would another, more expensive, IEM harman tuned sound better?
What if you equalise distortion or play less loud?Do all headphones with reasonably "flat" (Harman) frequency response sound the same? I would think not, there's still difference in the swings in the upper-mid and high frequencies, difference in the distortion level and profile.
I don't know. Two ideal transducers should of course sound the same, but are modern IEMs / headphones ideal enough?What if you equalise distortion or play less loud?
I agree.I don't know. Two ideal transducers should of course sound the same, but are modern IEMs / headphones ideal enough?
With speakers there is the matter of off-axis response which makes them more different, with headphones you might indeed be right.
Suspect that isnt high on his list of priorities. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...d-participation-for-the-next-few-weeks.38323/@amirm Would be so kind to comment on the below statement?
“What I fail to understand is why people bash these.
Frequency response illustrates that they adhere to the harman target.
How would another, more expensive, IEM harman tuned sound better?
If you dont like the harman target thats another story”
The question is of general nature and not limited to the specific productSuspect that isnt high on his list of priorities. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...d-participation-for-the-next-few-weeks.38323/
Plus he has offered his view on these IEMs in post 1. Not sure his job is to advocate for or defend any product from bashings
+1 .I know, I just ordered a second pair ...just in case I lose these ...they are too good!
You can't equalise distortion, only frequency response. And if a listening test isn't volume matched then it's not a real comparison.What if you equalise distortion or play less loud?
I meant theoretically, if they had the same distortion. Say if the distortion and other variables were out of the equationYou can't equalise distortion, only frequency response. And if a listening test isn't volume matched then it's not a real comparison.
The Harman curve is the problem.What I fail to understand is why people bash these.
Frequency response illustrates that they adhere to the harman target.
How would another, more expensive, IEM harman tuned sound better?
If you dont like the harman target thats another story
If distortion is the same, fit is the same, driver angle and position is the same, sensitivity and impedance is the same, and then frequency response is the same, or more or less the same, well then, they will sound more or less the same. You can try, with your favorite headphones, applying small changes to FR using EQ. With pink noise it's also a nice exercise, as no all music responds the same to EQ changes, because of course each track has a different amount of energy by frequency, so some EQ profiles make no difference in certain tracks and make a lot of difference in others.I meant theoretically, if they had the same distortion. Say if the distortion and other variables were out of the equation