Topping E70 Stereo DAC Review

[anli]

Hi. Are there other points except for galvanic isolation on selecting between optical and coaxial inputs?

 

[rarewolf]

Have ordered E70 with guess a difference between E70 and E70v is far below any blind test resolution, even for any golden ears.

And what is your opinion?

Our opinion? On what? The difference in sound quality between the E70 & E70V, or that you ordered the E70 based on a guess?

 

[anli]

Our opinion? On what? The difference in sound quality between the E70 & E70V, or that you ordered the E70 based on a guess?

On that guess - is it valid or not.

 

[rarewolf]

From what I’m hear from peers is that it’s purely a subjective call, so you’ll never know… least wise, of little concern…

 

[tarnopol]

Today I've received my E70 Velvet. Actually a near perfect little device, great display, Trigger out to finally remote switch on my LA90, transparent as f#€&. Only the remote control itself is a bit underwhelming. I wish they would come up with some nice design ideas and better usability after all those years.

 

[Burns]

Today I've received my E70 Velvet. Actually a near perfect little device, great display, Trigger out to finally remote switch on my LA90, transparent as f#€&. Only the remote control itself is a bit underwhelming. I wish they would come up with some nice design ideas and better usability after all those years.

https://a.co/d/bhIZUoX

Topping RC-22

 

[tarnopol]

https://a.co/d/bhIZUoX

Topping RC-22

Nice! Definitely a visual improvement. Do you have one? Does it work better from a distance or from an acute angle?

 

[Burns]

Nice! Definitely a visual improvement. Do you have one? Does it work better from a distance or from an acute angle?

you answered yourself in the first sentence. It is made of aluminum and gives a visual and tactile improvement. You want better and maybe cheaper. Buy a learnable universal remote and program those few buttons from the original.

 

[scruffy1]

given my education here re dac transparency, and psycho-acoustics : apart from additional features, is it likely i would even notice the difference between this dac and my current khadas tone board, all other equipment in the chain being the same (nad d3020, wharfedale 10.1 and 10.gx)?

my ancient ears are still pretty sensitive, but >14000hz is lost to me

 

[scruffy1]

and the non-scientific answer is yes

Today I've received my E70 Velvet. Actually a near perfect little device, great display, Trigger out to finally remote switch on my LA90, transparent as f#€&. Only the remote control itself is a bit underwhelming. I wish they would come up with some nice design ideas and better usability after all those years.

after years of the nad d3020 remote (it's crap), the e70 remote is a marvellous improvement - in essence it's simply an on /off and choose source switch for my purposes. +/- volume if i must

between that and the 12v trigger, i can successfully avoid the nad controller from here on for the most part, and that's a major win

 

[ErkyPerky]

FWIW I'm using an E70 (Sabre) with my Parasound Hint6 & Dynaudio Contour 30, and I'm very pleased with this combo.

If you're set on going Topping, then definitely get one of the E70 models if you can because they measure among the best of them, and i think you will appreciate being able to use the 12V trigger feature with your Parasound.

Are you using it on 4v(default) or 5v?

 

[chillwig]

Are you using it on 4v(default) or 5v?

Tried both and decided to use it on 4V because I couldn't hear any audible difference, I appreciate having the finer volume control at lower levels.

 

[HNK23]

I doubt the difference between CD and APTX of any type can be heard at all.

It would be good to see some sort of review or even test of the bluetooth function of these devices. Lots of people, myself included, will want to use BT. Sometimes you just want to play something from your phone on the speakers.

Bluetooth? I think Bluetooth is already distinguishable in terms of quality. I no longer use Bluetooth anywhere. On the one hand, I have a Silent Angel Munich in the living room, which is operated via the app, and I was lucky with a fairly inexpensive smsl SD-9, which streams via UPNP. To Bluetooth I say - no thanks!

 

[Gradius]

I'm thinking to get an E70. So far so good (no issues) ?

 

[aka_Z]

I have E70V for a while, so far so good. No issues, except I stopped watching crap on the TV, and went back reading good book and listening music instead

 

[ThatGuyYouKnow]

I'm thinking to get an E70. So far so good (no issues) ?

All good so far over here. *knock on wood*

 

[krappo]

Purcased my E70 Dec 2022 and absoulutly love it, No regrets

 

[chillwig]

I'm thinking to get an E70. So far so good (no issues) ?

No issues here. It just works, and with the 12v trigger I don't really have to ever think about it unless I need to manually change digital inputs.

 

[PersechiniA]

I have the E70 Velvet running through a Cyrus 8vs2 amplifier and LS50 Meta speakers. I hear a wider soundstage and more detail when in Preamp mode, compared with DAC mode. The difference in sound is enough to make it sound like a different recording.

What actually happens when switching between the two modes? If DAC mode bypasses an actual preamp (rather than just an attentuator), as I suspect, how do we end up with a similar output voltage?

Sorry if this is a silly question, but I had assumed DAC mode would produce the best sound.

 

[chillwig]

I have the E70 Velvet running through a Cyrus 8vs2 amplifier and LS50 Meta speakers. I hear a wider soundstage and more detail when in Preamp mode, compared with DAC mode. The difference in sound is enough to make it sound like a different recording.

What actually happens when switching between the two modes? If DAC mode bypasses an actual preamp (rather than just an attentuator), as I suspect, how do we end up with a similar output voltage?

Sorry if this is a silly question, but I had assumed DAC mode would produce the best sound.

there is no preamp, just a digital attenuator that is switchable. You should hear no difference other than perceived loudness maybe.