BittyBatman
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So d70s or the d90se?
It depends on several factors and not only your measurements, which for most are the same, but the D70s has a smoother sound and focused on naturalness, whereas the D90SE is focused on details having a more transparent sound. The D70s is also transparent but less so than the D90SE.So d70s or the d90se?
the D70s has a smoother sound and focused on naturalness, whereas the D90SE is focused on details having a more transparent sound. The D70s is also transparent but less so than the D90SE.
: to this day I don't understand how the vast majority cannot perceive the difference between the 2 dascs, as it is quite evident...
For those that like their transparency with a dash of opacity? A smidgen of murk? A grating of grain?The D70s is also transparent but less so than the D90SE.
So d70s or the d90se?
Escolha com base nos recursos e em quaisquer critérios que você possa ter, mas não espere nenhuma diferença na qualidade do som.
If all are the same, what need to measure them and use different components???
As I've already said, good luck with your opinions based by third parties, I'll test and compare to draw my conclusions.
Just out of curiosity, I would like to know what your current DAC is, as you are opining on a device (D70s on the agenda) I believe you have this DAC, if you don't you are being frivolous to opine on the D70s.How do we know if we don't measure them?
There are lots of reasons to choose and match components beyond sound quality.
Like I said before, thanks, but it isn't a luck thing, nor based on anyone's opinion.
Once you have any actual evidence from all your testing, by all means let's explore it. Otherwise it's just more of the same we get too much of...lots of claims with no evidence.
Uh-huh.. amazing how you can so confidently state these things, these DAC properties that have never been proven and don't actually exist outside of audio forum/discussion board echo chambers...the D70s and D90SE are two different designs. The former is based on AKM DAC chip and a linear power supply while the latter is based on ESS DAC chip and SMPS. Both measure good but as @Rinaldi Moreira mentioned, the D70s is slightly on the warm and musical side and not as detailed as the d90se.
Holy crap I don't even... again, way to confidently state such bullshit.The design of the power supply and the number of electrolytic capacitors used dictates the level of perceived smoothness / warmness in any equipment.
You didn't report anything new, everyone involved in the audio knows that...Do you think the people producing your music, that mixing/mastering audio engineers give a damn if their interface is using ESS or Cirrus Logic chips? Do you think AKM chips exist only for the audiophile to enjoy his music on the "warm and musical side"?
Spoiler: for the engineer all of these chips will sound the same. Why would it be any different for the enthusiast listening at home? The easy explanation would be that it's all in your imagination, all bias and assumptions..
With respect, you are wrong. This is not intended to be another opinion based audiophile circle jerk forum where unsubstantiated opinions transition to become received wisdom.This forum is to share our collective opinions and n not to sway them one way or another. The people who ask about a particular equipment are smart enough to make educated decisions after reading comments from both camps but let’s not keep pushing back on each and every opinion made.
This forum is to share our collective opinions and not to sway them one way or another.
The people who ask about a particular equipment are smart enough to make educated decisions after reading comments from both camps but let’s not keep pushing back on each and every opinion made.
Both measure good but as @Rinaldi Moreira mentioned, the D70s is slightly on the warm and musical side and not as detailed as the d90se.
Just out of curiosity, I would like to know what your current DAC is, as you are opining on a device (D70s on the agenda) I believe you have this DAC, if you don't you are being frivolous to opine on the D70s.
If you want images, if you run away from the questioning, you will be one of many... many who talk nonsense without hearing first...
In a perfect world where everything would be according to physics and its principles, every amplifier, dac and cables should play equally without changing the final sound, but the reality is different, the fact that you are unable to perceive the nuances and differences this does not mean that others with better hearing or with a system that can expose this difference cannot hear, you are not the owner of the truth...
I can answer this one.Why would it be any different for the enthusiast listening at home? The easy explanation would be that it's all in your imagination, all bias and assumptions...
So what’s your recommendation to our friend who asked the question on whether to buy D70s or D90SE?Uh-huh.. amazing how you can so confidently state these things, these DAC properties that have never been proven and don't actually exist outside of audio forum/discussion board echo chambers...
Do you think the people producing your music, that mixing/mastering audio engineers give a damn if their interface is using ESS or Cirrus Logic chips? Do you think AKM chips exist only for the audiophile to enjoy his music on the "warm and musical side"?
Spoiler: for the engineer all of these chips will sound the same. Why would it be any different for the enthusiast listening at home? The easy explanation would be that it's all in your imagination, all bias and assumptions...
“Bullshit”??Holy crap I don't even... again, way to confidently state such bullshit.
you have proved my earlier point. This forum is a one way street from the looks of it. My suggestion is to remove all members that do not agree with you and call it a day!With respect, you are wrong. This is not intended to be another opinion based audiophile circle jerk forum where unsubstantiated opinions transition to become received wisdom.
So in your system which one you’d choose and why?The measurements suggest in a blind level matched test the D70 and D90 should be indistinguishable. Please provide evidence that you have proven this not to be the case. We are open to evidence, not anecdote.
You are welcome to visit my home for some listening session and constructive feedback. Let me know so I can share my private email address for further discussion.If they are unsupported, like yours, expect them to be pushed back on. Part of why this forum exists is to push back against this nonsense.
So in your system which one you’d choose and why?Uh huh...
Ever wonder why our host never performs listening tests on DAC's?
you have proved my earlier point. This forum is a one way street from the looks of it. My suggestion is to remove all members that do not agree with you and call it a day!
So in your system which one you’d choose and why?