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Cayin Mini-CD MKII CD Player Review
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It might be prudent to ditch CDex, see the section on Potential Risk at Wikipedia. Other rippers are still freely available - Exact Audio Copy (EAC) is freeware and does an excellent job.
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Have there been any updates on the Cayin MK2 CD Player? I know the review said there were some anomalies in the digital out - yet this remains a popular player and I have not heard of anyone else reporting issues. Could it have been a defective unit or an issue with the DAC or a production issue that has been corrected?
This is player meets all of my requirements but I don't want to worry that there is some kind of corruption in the output.
This is player meets all of my requirements but I don't want to worry that there is some kind of corruption in the output.
Hello everyone,
Too bad I did not see this thread last year. When wanting to create my own CD test instead of using those of Denon/Sony, I had the same trouble with WMP.
To come back to this uncertainty about the digital output, I’d use an undithered 1kHz test tone at -90.31dBFS (with resolution of 16bits/44.1kHz). This will create a signal representing the three basic DC levels of 16bits resolution, when looked at with a scope (because 20*log(1/32768) = -90.31dBFS).
Then I would measure the result from the digital ouput. If the player is modifying the digital output, it won’t show what it should.
This is what to expect (from an old Sony CDP-337ES):
I used this test trying to differentiate “drives” in several CD players. My thinking was that any modification of the digital output would be easier to see with the lowest level that can be represented with 16bits data.
I got the same result with an old Teac VRDS 20, for instance:
Too bad I did not see this thread last year. When wanting to create my own CD test instead of using those of Denon/Sony, I had the same trouble with WMP.
To come back to this uncertainty about the digital output, I’d use an undithered 1kHz test tone at -90.31dBFS (with resolution of 16bits/44.1kHz). This will create a signal representing the three basic DC levels of 16bits resolution, when looked at with a scope (because 20*log(1/32768) = -90.31dBFS).
Then I would measure the result from the digital ouput. If the player is modifying the digital output, it won’t show what it should.
This is what to expect (from an old Sony CDP-337ES):
I used this test trying to differentiate “drives” in several CD players. My thinking was that any modification of the digital output would be easier to see with the lowest level that can be represented with 16bits data.
I got the same result with an old Teac VRDS 20, for instance:
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Are there any good alternatives to this with optical out but not the bit errors this has ?
The Denos have a feature i like , they are available locally in my town
Buy some older player with actual cd-mechanism instead of an awful computer drive. Anything will do just fine so you can pick a looker.
Sure, I use REW software for all my measurements, as a generator and analyser.
yes anything goes . I just needs something with a optical out i, it goes to a digital system anyways .
I'm looking at formfactor and cosmetics for the moment . Nice build quality would be a plus and small size .
Looking for a friend and possibly myself too depending of if i find something irresistible ..
I did not test this one but a Denon DCD-720AE, which I bought for 50$ or so, and it shows the same digital output.
I also tested a very basic and recent DVD player, a Sony DVP-SR760H, for fun, and which I bought for 60$ (new). It has a digital output too, and this is the result with my basic test:
Cheers
A pure CD player usually starts the discs faster than a DVD/Blueray player if i remember correctly ? It does not except anything but a simple TOC no menus and stuff ?
Starts faster, silent operation, seeking starts instantly and is not choppy and slow. My old Teac CD-5 was a joy to use. Even a basic old Technics you can find for $20 runs around cd-rom/dvd drives.
Depending on the model there can be programming, output trim, all sorts of options in menu and/or direct buttons. Personally I've never had use for much of the stuff.
Correct. Most of modern CD players employ universal drives though. So they don’t replicate the ancient mechanisms which are a real pleasure to use because being so fast to read TOC and switch tracks!
With old players you can try the analog out just out of interest. For example affordable Marantz CD-62 has Philips TDA1547 dac which is 1-bit 256x oversampling bitstream device. Other TDAs are featured plenty throughout the models too. If you're interested in this sort of stuff.
