Topping D10 Balanced Review (USB DAC)

[phoenixdogfan]

Time for Topping to fit 8 channels of this DAC and some DSP crossover/EQ into a case?

Don't forget Dirac Live.

 

[Labjr]

Being passive, I would expect the monitor1 to be balanced. Regardless, we will find out for sure when Amir tests it.

I definitely prefer the aesthetic and layout of the Monitor1 to the JBL Nano Patch.

I'd be concerned about the quality of the potentiometer of either. Something in the $50 price range probably cost less than $10 to build.

 

[Sharur]

Never said it would cause any issues.

fair enough. not as hot as tubes at least

 

[Sharur]

it's on amazon now, but not prime shipping yet sadly

 

[Helicopter]

Most audio potentiometers aren't exactly an expensive part. There are lots of good ones for <$2 retail.

 

[SEKLEM]

Product differentiation?

Allow me to frame the question differently.

What purpose is there to have optical and coaxial SPDIF on this DAC at all? I see wasted real estate.

 

[Blumlein 88]

Allow me to frame the question differently.

What purpose is there to have optical and coaxial SPDIF on this DAC at all? I see wasted real estate.

Those are outputs not inputs. Keep that in mind.

 

[Lupin]

fair enough. not as hot as tubes at least

Yup
Common sense tell you to put the device that outputs the most heat on top. I have the A30Pro on top of the D30Pro. It will certainly work the other way around to but at least this way the A30Pro gets to breath more and as a bonus the D30Pro gets less hot also.

 

[Sharur]

Yup
Common sense tell you to put the device that outputs the most heat on top. I have the A30Pro on top of the D30Pro. It will certainly work the other way around to but at least this way the A30Pro gets to breath more and as a bonus the D30Pro gets less hot also.

If I had the D30Pro that's what I would do. However, one doesn't even need to imagine how silly the A30Pro would look on top of the D10.

 

[Grooved]

Yes it is.

I edited my other post to specify that the question was on the Monitor1

Anyway, your D10 balanced looks like a great product !

 

[Grooved]

Hi there,

if I wouldn't buy a monitor controller and I would just connect the device straight to my active speakers using XLR cables:
would it be a big problem if I would control the volume only in Windows 10 (from 0 to 100), additionally, would it be a big degradation in terms of audio quality?

I already saw several times a "bug" in Windows 10 while switching between internal audio and a DAC, or two DACs,.. and getting volume going up to 100% for one device even if I had set it at a lower value before.
I would never take the risk of sending 100% in active monitors, unless setting very low gain on the monitors...

 

[Atratusnex]

If I had the D30Pro that's what I would do. However, one doesn't even need to imagine how silly the A30Pro would look on top of the D10.
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looks fine for me

 

[Sharur]

looks fine for me

fair enough, but I don't agree with metal on metal contact for no reason

 

[Atratusnex]

fair enough, but I don't agree with metal on metal contact for no reason

You can put small rubber feet under it... Costs nearly nothig, or buy yourself a geshelli eirish

 

[Sharur]

You can put small rubber feet under it... Costs nearly nothig, or buy yourself a geshelli eirish

I know you can add rubber feet, but the rubber feet from the A30Pro are gonna be hanging off the sides unless you remove them. I want the A30 for single ended power

 

[Toku]

Anyone else notice that SHENZENAUDIO emails announcing a new Topping product are sent within minutes/hours of the ASR review going up of that same product? I'm practically using the emails as an ASR notification at this point. lmao

Yes, I noticed it right away. That's very strange.

 

[fatoldgit]

@amirm

Can you confirm the source stack (i.e. I assume it was just your bog standard desktop running Roon with no fancy USB cable or low noise PC?).

Just want to confirm the measurements you got were without any special care and attention to the source noise.

Thanks,

Peter

 

[GeekySimar]

What if we use it unbalanced? Will there be a significant effect on performance?

What would be the best way to use it with Unbalanced Amp? I mean which adapter would be best to convert TRS connectors to RCA?

I see in product description, it will not support any adapter for Single Ended output. So this means we can't use it for unbalanced amps?

Am I missing anything here?

Thanks,
Simar

 

[Zim]

Yes, I noticed it right away. That's very strange.

Sounds more like a standard embargo whereby media and retailers can only share information about a certain product after a certain time/date. A lot of industries do this, especially in the tech field. Amir’s review and Shenzhen Audio’s email only came after Topping posting that the D10b was available for sale on Facebook from what I saw yesterday (Australian time).

 

[phoenixsong]

Sounds more like a standard embargo whereby media and retailers can only share information about a certain product after a certain time/date. A lot of industries do this, especially in the tech field. Amir’s review and Shenzhen Audio’s email only came after Topping posting that the D10b was available for sale on Facebook from what I saw yesterday (Australian time).

This is not the first instance. Tbh I've been expecting it, and soon after I saw the official announcement on the availability of the D10B I headed over here. Sure enough, I wasn't met with disappointment