Nutul
Senior Member
I just received the RD3 today. I got everything plugged in and it has a loud pop at turn on
If you switch your amp (or your powered speakers) on AFTER the DAC, which is always good practice, you don't get this issue.
I just received the RD3 today. I got everything plugged in and it has a loud pop at turn on
My other two Dacs don't have that issue, Topping E30ii and SMSL SU1If you switch your amp (or your powered speakers) on AFTER the DAC, which is always good practice, you don't get this issue.
A missed opportunity. All that back panel space and such a miserly Input count. An AES-EBU, Double Coaxial and Optical inputs would make it a highly desirable device, even if it cost an additional $/€100 or so...This is a review and detailed measurements of the Topping "TP" RD3 balanced stereo USB rackmount DAC with Bluetooth. It was sent to me by the company and costs US $229.
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The unit sports a gorgeous, white segmented display with highly responsive control. It is a joy to use. A remote control is provided as well. Back panel shows what we expect including the now standard trigger support on Topping products:
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Power supply is built-in which is very nice as well.
I prefer this form factor to desktop products as it looks more "serious."
Topping RD3 TP Measurements
As usual we start with our dashboard:
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This is excellent performance and just a step below state of the art.
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RCA output gives up just a bit of performance:
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But still fully transparent as evidenced by superb dynamic range:
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Linearity is excellent:
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As is Jitter over USB:
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There is however good bit of jitter over Coax/Toslink:
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Fortunately their levels don't reach audibility.
IMD is excellent and just limited by noise:
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If we eliminate that and just look at distortion floor, we can see superb performance:
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We have our usual set of filters:
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Even though attenuation is good we still get a bit of degradation in wideband THD+N vs frequency:
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Conclusions
The performance of RD3 can be summed up as one step below perfection. In exchange for that, you get a very high value DAC with gorgeous display and in my opinion, highly usable rackmount form factor. As I noted in the review, I rather put an RD3 in my main system than a desktop DAC.
I am going to recommend the Topping "TP" RD3 balanced DAC.
Specifications
- Dimensions (W x H x D)
48.3X15.5X5.2cm
Bluetooth
Yes- D/A Converter
AK4493S
Model Number
RD3- Material
Metal
DSD Sampling Frequencies
2.8224 MHz (DSD64),5.6448 MHz (DSD128),11.2896 MHz (DSD256),22.5792 MHz (DSD512)- PCM Word Length
16-bit,24-bit,32-bit
PCM Sampling Frequencies
44.1 kHz,48 kHz,88.2 kHz,96 kHz,176.4 kHz,352.8 kHz,384 kHz,705.6 kHz,768 kHz- Outputs
RCA,XLR
Inputs
USB Type-B,Optical (SPDIF),Coaxial- Type
Desktop
Brand Name
TOPPING- Origin
Mainland China
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The main question for me is: does it sound better than my Topping E50?
Sure! I sent it to some friends make a comparison with other DACs.in theory you won't hear any difference between the two....
The choice is based solely on the interface, design and available options.
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In this age of multiple digital sources and devices? Not even close. Even 20 years ago it would be barely enough. Besides, just how many people use i²S? In practice, only 3 usable inputs...It already has 4 inputs - that's pretTy good for an DAC? And AES and SPDIF are in most cases compatible, you just need the right cable. (AES outputs are normally transformer decoupled with small digital transFormers - so symmetric/unsymmetric is no issue).
Sure! I sent it to some friends make a comparison with other DACs.
The players:
Topping E50
SMSL M400
Denafrips Pontus
The conclusions
TOPPING E50
- Sound signature: well balanced and neutral
- Sound stage: significantly less pronounced
- Presence of bass / mid / treble: balanced presence, without highlighting any part of the spectrum, very pleasant to listen to
- Bass / mid / treble detail: significantly less detailed, but without offering any discomfort
Conclusion: a less sophisticated, but balanced device - anyone who doesn't have a comparison will love having one.
SMSL M400
- Sound signature: neutral, without reinforcing any part of the spectrum
- Soundstage: very open and pronounced
- Presence of bass / mid / treble: balanced and striking presence in bass and treble
- Bass/mid/treble detail: slightly less detailed than Pontus
Conclusion: excellent equipment in terms of cost-benefit ratio.
DENAFRIPS PONTUS
- Sound signature: neutral, but pulling a little towards the midrange.
- Soundstage: A little less open than the M400 (very little, almost imperceptible)
- Presence of bass / mids / highs: a marked presence of mid-highs; voices in particular. And trebles are also significantly pronounced.
- Bass / mid / treble detailing: very well detailed.
Conclusion: DENAFRIPS PONTUS is the best of the three evaluated in terms of sound, followed very closely by the M400. The E50 appears to be a different standard of equipment, but still excellent.
Considering that the Toppinp E50 price is 1/5 of the other two, it seems to be a very very honest product.
Your listening test unfortunately is invalid. For it to deliver usable results it would have to be conducted as a level matched controlled test (double blind or also called ABX Test). The purpose is to remove chance (guessing), ensure statistical validity and remove bias (expectation bias of humans) from negatively affecting the test results. Also the level would have to be matched precisely (good voltmeter), as louder is always perceived as better (Fletcher-Munson). As such tests are not easy to do and elaborate many can’t do it.Sure! I sent it to some friends make a comparison with other DACs.
The players:
Topping E50
SMSL M400
Denafrips Pontus
The conclusions
TOPPING E50
- Sound signature: well balanced and neutral
- Sound stage: significantly less pronounced
- Presence of bass / mid / treble: balanced presence, without highlighting any part of the spectrum, very pleasant to listen to
- Bass / mid / treble detail: significantly less detailed, but without offering any discomfort
Conclusion: a less sophisticated, but balanced device - anyone who doesn't have a comparison will love having one.
SMSL M400
- Sound signature: neutral, without reinforcing any part of the spectrum
- Soundstage: very open and pronounced
- Presence of bass / mid / treble: balanced and striking presence in bass and treble
- Bass/mid/treble detail: slightly less detailed than Pontus
Conclusion: excellent equipment in terms of cost-benefit ratio.
DENAFRIPS PONTUS
- Sound signature: neutral, but pulling a little towards the midrange.
- Soundstage: A little less open than the M400 (very little, almost imperceptible)
- Presence of bass / mids / highs: a marked presence of mid-highs; voices in particular. And trebles are also significantly pronounced.
- Bass / mid / treble detailing: very well detailed.
Conclusion: DENAFRIPS PONTUS is the best of the three evaluated in terms of sound, followed very closely by the M400. The E50 appears to be a different standard of equipment, but still excellent.
Considering that the Toppinp E50 price is 1/5 of the other two, it seems to be a very very honest product.
Hi,
Without wanting to offend you or discredit you, this test leaves more room for subjectivity than anything else.
On ASR we demonstrate through measurements and this is where the "neutrality" of an audio equipment makes sense.
All the dacs you mention have been tested and measured. To be able to compare them, you must be able to measure and erase all subjectivity.
The Denafrips Pontus 2 is an R2R DAC > $1850
Topping E50 > $269
SMSL M400 > $800
Whether it is the SMSL M400 or the Topping E50, both measure better by far than the Denafrips)
Conclusion: trust the measurements and don't spend your money haphazardly
Here goes :
Topping E50 full measurements :
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Topping E50 Review (Balanced DAC)
This is a review and detailed measurements of the new Topping E50 balanced USB DAC. It was sent to me by the company and costs US $269. I just reviewed its companion headphone amplifier, the Topping L50. The E50 takes my favorite orange LED display and makes it even nicer! It is a gorgeous...www.audiosciencereview.com
SMSL M400 full measurements :
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SMSL M400 Balanced USB MQA DAC Review
This is a review and detailed measurements of the SMSL M400 balanced and unbalanced DAC. It was kindly sent to me by the company. The M400 costs US $810 from prices I see online. The M400 design has been upgraded with a larger, more clear display and a Plexiglas upper cover: There is the...www.audiosciencereview.com
Denfrips Pontus 2 full measurements ( APx555 B)
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Denafrips Pontus 2 (12th Anniversary Edition) Measurements - GoldenSound
Measurements of the Denafrips Pontus 2 12th Anniversary R2R DAC, and testing to see whether claims of NOS capability are true.goldensound.audio
At a glance to understand:
Topping E50 :
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DENAFRIPS Pontus 2 :
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SMSL M400 :
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No offense at all. That was what they perceived. Just sharing. Measures vs listening is an infinite discussion. Just sharing. ASR is measurements in most cases. A technical evidence. But people listen too.Hi,
Without wanting to offend you or discredit you, this test leaves more room for subjectivity than anything else.
On ASR we demonstrate through measurements and this is where the "neutrality" of an audio equipment makes sense.
All the dacs you mention have been tested and measured. To be able to compare them, you must be able to measure and erase all subjectivity.
The Denafrips Pontus 2 is an R2R DAC > $1850
Topping E50 > $269
SMSL M400 > $800
Whether it is the SMSL M400 or the Topping E50, both measure better by far than the Denafrips)
Conclusion: trust the measurements and don't spend your money haphazardly
Here goes :
Topping E50 full measurements :
![]()
Topping E50 Review (Balanced DAC)
This is a review and detailed measurements of the new Topping E50 balanced USB DAC. It was sent to me by the company and costs US $269. I just reviewed its companion headphone amplifier, the Topping L50. The E50 takes my favorite orange LED display and makes it even nicer! It is a gorgeous...www.audiosciencereview.com
SMSL M400 full measurements :
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SMSL M400 Balanced USB MQA DAC Review
This is a review and detailed measurements of the SMSL M400 balanced and unbalanced DAC. It was kindly sent to me by the company. The M400 costs US $810 from prices I see online. The M400 design has been upgraded with a larger, more clear display and a Plexiglas upper cover: There is the...www.audiosciencereview.com
Denfrips Pontus 2 full measurements ( APx555 B)
![]()
Denafrips Pontus 2 (12th Anniversary Edition) Measurements - GoldenSound
Measurements of the Denafrips Pontus 2 12th Anniversary R2R DAC, and testing to see whether claims of NOS capability are true.goldensound.audio
At a glance to understand:
Topping E50 :
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DENAFRIPS Pontus 2 :
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SMSL M400 :
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They made what they could. I like blind tests, but it was not at this timeYour listening test unfortunately is invalid. For it to deliver usable results it would have to be conducted as a level matched controlled test (double blind or also called ABX Test). The purpose is to remove chance (guessing), ensure statistical validity and remove bias (expectation bias of humans) from negatively affecting the test results. Also the level would have to be matched precisely (good voltmeter), as louder is always perceived as better (Fletcher-Munson). As such tests are not easy to do and elaborate many can’t do it.
Therefore in this instance it is already perfectly fine as the previous post has pointed out to simply look at the measurements which show that every deviation from „perfect“ is by orders of magnitude below what humans are able to hear.
The good measurements of the Topping E50 made me to move for it. But many issues on measurements are beyond the human listening area, as ASR always remember. So, we can not only go for measurements. But I choose the cheapest with good ones.Your listening test unfortunately is invalid. For it to deliver usable results it would have to be conducted as a level matched controlled test (double blind or also called ABX Test). The purpose is to remove chance (guessing), ensure statistical validity and remove bias (expectation bias of humans) from negatively affecting the test results. Also the level would have to be matched precisely (good voltmeter), as louder is always perceived as better (Fletcher-Munson). As such tests are not easy to do and elaborate many can’t do it.
Therefore in this instance it is already perfectly fine as the previous post has pointed out to simply look at the measurements which show that every deviation from „perfect“ is by orders of magnitude below what humans are able to hear.
No offense at all. That was what they perceived. Just sharing. Measures vs listening is an infinite discussion. Just sharing. ASR is measurements in most cases. A technical evidence. But people listen too.
A Chord Mojo 2 at 430 euros d’be my maximum investiment. Or an IFI Gryphon at the same price rangeThis is indeed an eternal discussion) The whole point of ASR testing lies precisely in the science and practical data. We all know that our ears have limits and what we perceive is often biased by feeling. It often amuses me to read in Stereophile reviews or other Soundnews tests that are completely dithyrambic and meaningless because they are often empty of measurements....
I like to recall this beautiful example:
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Chord DAVE Review (DAC & HP Amp)
This is a review, detailed measurements and listening tests of CHORD DAVE combination DAC and headphone amplifier. It is on kind loan from a member and costs US $14,000. Having been frustrated with the user interface of lower end Chord products with their color Morse codes, I was really looking...www.audiosciencereview.com
and the dythiambic review of Soundnews...
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Digital to Analog Veritas in Extremis - Chord DAVE DAC Review - Soundnews
My Video Review: Immediately after finishing my Denafrips Terminator Plus review, I was 100% sure that Terminator Plus (TPlus from now on) was going to be my forever and ever end-game DAC. I shot an email to Vinshine Audio that supplied a review sample and I kindly asked for a discount as I...soundnews.net
no way......
A Chord Mojo 2 at 430 euros d’be my maximum investiment. Or an IFI Gryphon at the same price range
Sometimes you go to a restaurant because a friend insisted. At least, if I do not find any good new on the Mojo 2 I can sell it easilyCheck Amir's tests and take any DAC with a 120DB Sinad under ASR test conditions for less than $200
You are spoiled for choice among all the dacs tested recently)![]()
Sometimes you go to a restaurant because a friend insisted. At least, if I do not find any good new on the Mojo 2 I can sell it easily