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The Case Against OLED

For viewing high quality content, I think you can get closer to the screen that 8.5 feet with 85", but that unfortunately clashes with the audio setup. That is why 98" format is really the sweet spot for those that can fit it in their setup and why 98" is getting so much attention and buys.

110 and 115" class is even better as it allows you to pull MLP back and expand the soundstage to the extent needed/warranted, but those are still a bit on the costly side.

There have been a lots of threads on FOV vs immersion. FOV is not necessarily equivalent of immersion. Just one way to get closer to it. Immersion on 150 or 200" screens is still unsurpassed but it comes at its own expense with the new large mini LEDs.
Immersion gives me motion sickness. I learned that watching IMAX demonstration movies.

I’m happy to watch the content “over there”.

Rick “42” in the YouTube sitting room; 50” for the den; plasma in both cases” Denney
 
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Immersion gives me motion sickness. I learned that watching IMAX demonstration movies.

I’m happy to watch the content “over there”.

Rick “42” in the YouTube sitting room; 50” for the den; plasma in both cases” Denney
don't you mean liemax , it ain't imax does your home measure 80 feet wide by 60 feet high , if not then its liemax
 
don't you mean liemax , it ain't imax does your home measure 80 feet wide by 60 feet high , if not then its liemax
No, it was at the Smithsonian Air and Space museum—one of the first IMAX theaters. I had to step out and felt crappy for two hours.

Rick “prolly 40 years ago, but it hasn’t gotten any better” Denney
 
Immersion gives me motion sickness. I learned that watching IMAX demonstration movies.

I’m happy to watch the content “over there”.

Rick “42” in the YouTube sitting room; 50” for the den; plasma in both cases” Denney
I found the same in IMAX unless you sit very near the center right next to the projector. Then it is okay. I certainly don't have the problem with other large immersion screens that are flat or slightly curved. Just the IMAX dome.
 
No, it was at the Smithsonian Air and Space museum—one of the first IMAX theaters. I had to step out and felt crappy for two hours.

Rick “prolly 40 years ago, but it hasn’t gotten any better” Denney
do you want me call 911 paramedics are you okay ? liemax made you feel sick , no wonder , you should have gone to a george lucas THX cinema with JBL and saw return of the jedi
 
No, it was at the Smithsonian Air and Space museum—one of the first IMAX theaters. I had to step out and felt crappy for two hours.

Rick “prolly 40 years ago, but it hasn’t gotten any better” Denney
They used to make IMAX films intentionally motion immersive. It’s a combination of the content and the large screen. I don’t think this sensation is typical of normal content.
 
do you want me call 911 paramedics are you okay ? liemax made you feel sick , no wonder , you should have gone to a george lucas THX cinema with JBL and saw return of the jedi
I think the movie was called “Speed”—a half-hour demonstration movie.

I get the same effect when I sit close enough to a 100” display that it fills my peripheral vision.

But I don’t use these for first-person gaming. Or do any gaming at all, except maybe Solitaire on my iPhone.

BTW, I did seek out THX theaters in the day, as much for the sound as anything.

Rick “can’t do VR headsets, either” Denney
 
They used to make IMAX films intentionally motion immersive. It’s a combination of the content and the large screen. I don’t think this sensation is typical of normal content.
that's before they made garbage trash like apollo 13 that was watered down in running time , liemax is a cash cow to confuse public , with trashy aspect ratio switching on and off every few seconds serves no logic to the movie other than a visual distraction and money rip off scam
they should have stuck to the short movies not gotten involved with feature movies
 
??? I see no reason why a 55" Samsung QN90, 80, or even 70 series shouldn't offer you what you want.
Check one out at BestBuy or whatever.
Question is: how much of an upgrade would that be over my still perfectly functional X900F. Blooming and Viewing angles are still problematic, according to RTINGS. So not much of a change on that front. The only really notable upgrade would be HDMI 2.1 and 120/144 Hz capability.

OLED, OLED, LED: Hisense, OLED. *laughs*

Sorry, not an American.

I game in a centered window. No issue.

No problems with burn in that I have noticed.
Interesting. Though when I dick around in Blender for 4-6 hours several, days a week, I really don't want to have to worry about the panel all the time.
 
OLED, OLED, LED: Hisense, OLED. *laughs*
That site tests with shared data, rates, compares, shares menu settings information and like ASR shows one how evaluate the technology. Sorry didn't know that major TV brands sold different TVs around the world. Sorry will help someone else * condescending laugh*
 
As an owner and user of OLED, AMOLED, TN, VA, and IPS, the only strong preferences I have are for high resolution and that a phone must be OLED for night reading in bed. If it isn't a totally junk display, it's fine for everything from work to movies. 60Hz is fine too. I almost never turn my OLED up to 120hz. My phone sits mostly at 60. Gaming? I don't do it that much anyway.
 
Tandem OLED looks interesting. The newer iPads are using it, and can get a 100% screen area brightness of 1000 nits!
I had a look at one of these new iPads today at Best Buy. I watched a few HDR videos I'm familiar with, and everything looked exceptionally natural. It's the best display I've seen yet, easily besting any of the TVs in the store. They didn't have a Bravia 9 to look at. I was wondering if maybe one of those could give the iPad a challenge. The iPad's prefect blacks combined with no noticable ABL is really fantastic. It'll be great if some day affordable TVs look that good. I don't expect to be buying a new TV for another 10 years or more, so they've got some time to work on it. I've got TVs in the house going back 30 years and they all still work perfectly. The darn things never seem to wear out. And, no matter how good they look in the future, it's not going to matter too much to me because what I have already looks great to me.

One thing my TV doesn't do well is work as a computer monitor in HDR mode. The HDR content looks good, but the Mac OS user interface looks wierd in HDR, with odd color and contrast effects. The iPad didn't have that problem at all. HDR and SDR content can be viewed in windows simultaneously and everything still looks spot on.
 
One thing my TV doesn't do well is work as a computer monitor in HDR mode. The HDR content looks good, but the Mac OS user interface looks wierd in HDR, with odd color and contrast effects.
Yeah, same on Windows.
HDR games / videos look great when I enable HDR but SDR stuff looks overly bright and washed out even at minimum brightness setting.
 
Depends on seating distance.

I've had this website bookmarked for years. You enter screen size and resolution and it gives you recommended minimum, maximum, and visual acuity distances.
 
I've had this website bookmarked for years. You enter screen size and resolution and it gives you recommended minimum, maximum, and visual acuity distances.
Dang it, at ~65cm, 55" I am too close.
Only viable solution: an 8K display. :<

Anybody got a 8090 RTX lying around to power such a display? :'D
 
Immersion gives me motion sickness. I learned that watching IMAX demonstration movies.
I experienced that with games. First time many years ago at a Dave & Busters watching something in one of those booths.
Later at home, again with some game I don't remember.
Crazy reaction, I turn clammy cold, sweaty, come very close to vomiting and have to get away from the viewing???

I've never experienced it since with anything on my computers 32" Acer monitor, nor any big screen TV, nor theater STD or 3D?
But then I don't game?
As an owner and user of OLED, AMOLED, TN, VA, and IPS, the only strong preferences I have are for high resolution and that a phone must be OLED for night reading in bed. If it isn't a totally junk display, it's fine for everything from work to movies. 60Hz is fine too. I almost never turn my OLED up to 120hz. My phone sits mostly at 60. Gaming? I don't do it that much anyway.
A phone is for phone calls. ;)
 
A phone is for phone calls. ;)
Challenge: Say you're old without having 1950 in your name. ;p

Interestingly...

I started gaming on an Intellivision. It had 1K of RAM and ran at about 1.8 MHz. It typically ran the screen at 20Hz.

My phone (Pixel 8 Pro) has a Tensor G3. It has 12GB of RAM and runs 1 core Cortex-X3 at 2910 MHz, 4 Cortex-A715 at 2370 MHz, and 4 Cortex-A510 at 1700 MHz. It can run its screen from 1 Hz to 120 Hz and is about the size of the INTV's controllers. No physical buttons though.

It's rather amazing how far processors have come in such a short time.
 
Challenge: Say you're old without having 1950 in your name. ;p
That's a fact sir. LOL
The best "phone" I ever had hung on the wall in my kitchen and gave more reliable, better sounding "phone" service than any not-so-smart today. :p

It's rather amazing how far processors have come in such a short time.
My computer sits on my desk at home, I built it myself, and would make a performance monkey out of anything hand held.
Best part is I don't have to pay an additional $100 or more a month for the privilege of carrying it around.
I got a little flip phone that makes acceptable phone calls all over the world, and costs me around $100 a year and has for 2 decades now. :p
 
My computer sits on my desk at home, I built it myself, and would make a performance monkey out of anything hand held.
Best part is I don't have to pay an additional $100 or more a month for the privilege of carrying it around.:p

100 a month is for the rubes. 25 a month with internet access everywhere is alright by me.


Shockingly, the fastest desktop single threaded cpu is not dramatically faster than my phone in single threads. And my phone has its own oled! Beats the monochrome lcd on my first palm smart phone.
 
That's a fact sir. LOL
The best "phone" I ever had hung on the wall in my kitchen and gave more reliable, better sounding "phone" service than any not-so-smart today. :p


My computer sits on my desk at home, I built it myself, and would make a performance monkey out of anything hand held.
Best part is I don't have to pay an additional $100 or more a month for the privilege of carrying it around.
I got a little flip phone that makes acceptable phone calls all over the world, and costs me around $100 a year and has for 2 decades now. :p
Mine unfortunately receives (& therefore can send) texts, also. It also takes pictures reasonably well. It will fit in my shirt pocket next to the pen. It's an ancient iSomething or another.
I had a great SONY that was like Fonzie's comb on Happy Day's in Guam. It flipped out like a switchblade.
I tell people that: if you text me and expect to receive more than: Yes, No, Maybe, I'll be there (or not), then texting me is the wrong way to communicate with me.
 
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