Ah, marketing is a mystery, but senility I understand completely.Lol I meant Orchard. But in any event I agree.
Ah, marketing is a mystery, but senility I understand completely.Lol I meant Orchard. But in any event I agree.
It is indeed.I'll give Stuart a pass because it is a really good amplifier.
However ... your injection of unfounded, illogical and unscientific reviews into this thread (and subsequent defense of the same) is, I believe, out of line here.
one thing I have seen over the years is that sometimes a rash of similar subjective opinions and reviews can indicate something is wrong (or right) that we can find technically.
...they're reading Ayn Rand books.Objectivists don’t go to audio shows because
That's petty and wrong.So far who’s bought more amps, subjectivists or objectivists? Objectivists don’t go to audio shows because the only way to evaluate audio gear at audio shows is subjectively. You only need written text and plots for objective analysis. So an Internet forum is enough.
It's petty and wrong because it assumes the two ways to appreciate audio are mutually exclusive.What’s petty and wrong? You never see any spectators showing up at audio shows with AP’s. So what’s the point in going if you’re not there to partake in subjectivist activities?
I didn't realize that speakers and headphones don't appear at shows. Maybe my memory is faulty?That’s the impression I’m getting from some of the comments on this thread. The slight mention of subjectivists enjoying these amps caused quite the uproar. Even though they have proven themselves objectively.
That's a very weirdly shaped straw man you've assembled.So what tools are you using to evaluate the headphones and speakers? Klippel?
I'm sure you are. But I don't know how many Ayn Rand acolytes are here, so it may help if you ask one directly.Just curious how an objectivist...
Sorry, I'm busy being flamed off the forum.So your answer is to completely dodge the question. Ok thanks for the insight.
By being aware of the limitations and report accordingly?Just curious how an objectivist would evaluate speakers and headphones at an audio show using a methodology that wouldn’t get him flamed off the forum.
It’s not dishonest. I’m genuinely interested in the answer. I just witnessed 2 pages of Orchard Audio being nearly flamed off the forum by the collective for merely mentioning that people attending audio shows found rooms that were utilizing his amplifiers subjectively pleasing. For me what this has shown is their methodology of evaluating his amps at the audio shows was unacceptable. If this is the case, please tell me the acceptable methodology for evaluating the amps at an audio show that would be officially approved by the ASR collective?
One could just as easily say that given as I said above that audio components are part of a system, including the room, and will thus behave differently in one's own room with one's own components, there is no place at an audio show for subjectivists either.Exactly why an objectivist has no place at an audio show.
Agreed. Audio shows should just be a way for audio companies to expense travel to marketing while they goof off.Given as I said above that audio components are part of a system, including the room, and will thus behave differently in one's own room with one's own components, there is no place at an audio show for subjectivists either.
How can you have a good time inter-mingling with delusional subjectivists fawning over snake oil cables and magic stones. I’d avoid the activity entirely.
I guess it depends on your scale of expense. Compared to most SOTA AB amps for example, especially the "high-end" brands, they're a real bargain.Good as they may be, aren't the Orchard products comparitively expensive?
That, I appreciate f. I was thinking of Nord or Audiophonics products.I guess it depends on your scale of expense. Compared to most SOTA AB amps for example, especially the "high-end" brands, they're a real bargain.