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Roast the cable scams!
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solderdude
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But how do you know the quality of the cable? The point is there is no cheap, reliably high quality headphone replacement cables that are also readily available.
BTW XLR or 4.4mm.
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Pretty much.
The prices are that high because you basically pay for the craftmanship of non Chinese workers making the cable to exactly your given specifications.
I once contemplated to make a pretty cable for my clear myself. After cobbling together all the parts on various distributors I came up to sth like 75€, 1/3rd of that were shipping costs. That was before the need to buy soldering equipment.
Needless to say I just went: "meh" and grabbed a 10€, boring looking extension cable on Amazon. I can't hear any difference between plugging in my Clear directly with the stock cable or using the extension. Nor would I expect there to be one.
No, I did not shake it 180 times..
solderdude
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You mean the build quality ?
How microphonic or supple it is ?
You won't know untill you have it in your hands or read from someone who ordered such a cable.
yeah.. forgot to mention Pentaconn
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This guy will make you any length, colour , termination and wire quality. Used for all my balanced cables. Dont know where you are for shipping costs.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audeze-L...hash=item365231a16f:m:mP8AcdmqiCawxY5DxJcn5kQ
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"Let us try to explain our technology in a more illustrious manner". Perversion of Language can only serve corrupted purposes.
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Well, compared to "illustrative" which sounds a bit harsh, "illustrious" flows smoothly and evokes happy phase-corrected gold plated electrons...
Meaning is highly subjective anyway
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Anyone, any links about pure snake oil with ridiculous descriptions and willing to debunk it?
solderdude
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chakra stones ... PWB foil ?
Do you really need to debunk this ?
I have debunked 'miracle wraps' in the past.
You don't really have to be a genius to know that certain things won't do anything but create a mindset.
Do you really need to debunk this ?
I have debunked 'miracle wraps' in the past.
You don't really have to be a genius to know that certain things won't do anything but create a mindset.
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Well, face masks for cables - one could say they were prescient.
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Look at anything which isn't either a dac, an amp or a transducer or (reasonably priced) cables between them all. There's tonnes of it out there.
The fun for me is looking for presposterous language more than the (lack of ) science claimed. But dont forget, a massively expensive cable will likely work fine (how can it not?). Its not snake oil. Niche marketed and overpriced, maybe.
Pure snake oil to me are things which serve no function other than claiming to do "things" to existing systems and components. Removing problems that never existed in the first place for example (see USB decrappifiers).
Has anyone seen any blindfolds or similar marketed towards audiophools yet?
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I'd have my BS detectors switched on for this thing. https://audiobacon.net/2017/03/16/high-fidelity-cables-trinity-helix-review/
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Actually, there is a patent
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/bd/b5/16/2d0130d237b85f/US8272876.pdf
It doesn't seem that even the claimed effect is impressive at all, or always positive (but it would need to be checked). In fact, I would suspect that this patent was filed simply in order to be able to claim "Our patented technology... blah blah blah"
I recently got kicked out of Venture Electronics facebook group after I had an argument with the company owner Wild Lee. I called out his claim that the level of braiding on iem cables had an effect on sound quality and that his company's hand braided cables had better sound quailty and less compression than machine braided(tight) cables. He was offended by the snake oil bs that i called on him. We had a heated argument and I got kicked out..
I recently got kicked out of Venture Electronics facebook group after I had an argument with the company owner Wild Lee. I called out his claim that the level of braiding on iem cables had an effect on sound quality and that his company's hand braided cables had better sound quailty and less compression than machine braided(tight) cables. He was offended by the snake oil bs that i called on him. We had a heated argument and I got kicked out..
Shouldn't straight cable be better since they are shorter for the same effective length?
Was that only the first believer website you've been banned from? LOLI recently got kicked out of Venture Electronics facebook group after I had an argument with the company owner Wild Lee. I called out his claim that the level of braiding on iem cables had an effect on sound quality and that his company's hand braided cables had better sound quailty and less compression than machine braided(tight) cables. He was offended by the snake oil bs that i called on him. We had a heated argument and I got kicked out..
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one question: how does electromagnetic waves travel in a cable. They go like a train or like a spiral ?
I recently got kicked out of Venture Electronics facebook group after I had an argument with the company owner Wild Lee. I called out his claim that the level of braiding on iem cables had an effect on sound quality and that his company's hand braided cables had better sound quailty and less compression than machine braided(tight) cables. He was offended by the snake oil bs that i called on him. We had a heated argument and I got kicked out..
It actually can, but not in a good way.
If you have a complex enough braid and use insulation with high enough permittivity the cables' capacitance will skyrocket. The capacitive load may make poorly designed amps unstable or even turn into a low pass filter if the design is pathological enough...
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