Different cables, different measurements?

[pogo]

I think we have several effects playing in here. Where are your room modes, for example?

 

[solderdude]

yeah, this is why i share 2 videos

It shows the measurement method is wrong.
There is no question you hear differences but the measurements only seem to confirm your suspicions.
10dB narrow band differences cannot possibly come from cables, not even EQ is that narrow band anyway.

 

[GaryY]

- I've done each test multiple times to confirm the results using pink noise (the resoults were exactly the same every time)

Did you test multiple times each cable of A and B in sequence of

1) ABABABABABABABAB
or
2) AAAAAAAABBBBBBBB
?

 

[GaryY]

For example, I see that curtain shows different light slot through the windows in 2 measurements.

 

[Deleted member 48726]

 

[GaryY]

Without exaggeration, I repect this kind of curiousity. But really expensive cables for GHz measurement show only 0.? or 0.0?dB variation DUT by DUT. If copper and aluminum could result in 10dB difference in kHz range, I think world could be really chaos.

 

[Deleted member 48726]

Without exaggeration, I repect this kind of curiousity. But really expensive cables for GHz measurement show only 0.? or 0.0?dB variation DUT by DUT. If copper and aluminum could result in 10dB difference in kHz range, I think world could be really chaos.

Ahh! -This is the explanation for why the world is indeed chaotic.

 

[Deleted member 21219]

Ahh! -This is the explanation for why the world is indeed chaotic.

'Cause and effect, chain of events
All of the chaos makes perfect sense
When you're spinnin' round
Things come undone
Welcome to Earth, third rock from the Sun

... courtesy Joe Diffie.

 

[GaryY]

Ahh! -This is the explanation for why the world is indeed chaotic.

I'm suddenly persuaded....

 

[Deleted member 48726]

Oh boy do we solve much grander things than HiFi issues on this forum!

 

[antcollinet]

For example, I see that curtain shows different light slot through the windows in 2 measurements.View attachment 343301View attachment 343302

Plus we don't know how accurately the operator is placed in exactly the same position for each measurement. I very much doubt he could get that very precise after moving to change the cables over.

 

[beagleman]

First step is to minimize variables.

Second step is to make only one change at a time.

Third step is to have a "Baseline" that is 100% repeatable.....

 

[rank]

What any worker would do.

 

[BDWoody]

...many people can hear the obvious difference (but the instrument can not measure it...

So far, no one has demonstrated they can hear things that can't be measured. Not once. Not ever.

 

[BDWoody]

I don't need to convince anyone,

No, but you seem to want to. Get data, not stories.

 

[antcollinet]

• I don't need to convince anyone, but I hope the doubters will try it for themselves: 1, find different copper horn cables. 2. Listen carefully (by yourself and with others) and note the differences. 3, take out your instrument measurement (please note: ensure that the random error of each measurement is within a controllable range).

People will hear all sorts of things that don't exist if they compare with sighted listening. The only way to verify if there is really something to hear is with blind and controlled listening, or with measurements.

Anything else, and you are simply allowing your brain to fool you.

 

[Stoutblock]

“Whether you ‘think’ you can, or whether you ‘think’ you can’t, you are right”. Henry Ford

 

[antcollinet]

“Whether you ‘think’ you can, or whether you ‘think’ you can’t, you are right”. Henry Ford

Pretty certain you are not quoting that in the correct context.

 

[Sir Sanders Zingmore]

The OP hasn’t been online since 20th Jan (the day they started this thread). Do we really need to go here again?

 

[Stoutblock]

Pretty certain you are not quoting that in the correct context.

The quote is correct and applies very well to many contexts (although certainly Henry probably could care less about cables).