Nvidia Shield on Android 11

[ash1980]

If I move to Tidal, this problem goes away , since there is native app available?

 

[jmtocali]

How will Bubbleupnp work? I haven't heard about that before.

And what do you mean by side load Qobuz app?

Bubbleupnp has native qobuz support. Sideload means that you can install an apk to the Shield.

 

[dosifey]

I do not think this problem has a solution but I will ask anyway:
Is there any way for USB audio (from both audio and video files) playback via adnroid without down or up sampling of the signal?

There are some audio players (UAPP, Onkyo, Hiby, Poweramp) which bypass the original Android USB audio drivers, but no video players which allow that. All of the audio players are very niche products and have terrible user interface.

Ideally, I need a solution at Android driver level. Failing that - a Kodi or other video player plug in or a nice video player that allows that.

It is not a pressing problem at all, but I would really like to know if I missed anything. Let's give this thread 5-10 years and maybe there will be a solution

The hardware device is Nvidia Shield. I understand the easy solution would be to just use a Windows device for media playback instead of an android device.

 

[Beershaun]

Video is generally protected by DRM and the legal ramifications related to creating a way to bypass it, so you don't see many companies supporting that use case.

 

[dosifey]

Video is generally protected by DRM and the legal ramifications related to creating a way to bypass it, so you don't see many companies supporting that use case.

Kodi player allows some control over sampling rate but only via HDMI, not via USB.

 

[WondrousHippo]

I do not think this problem has a solution but I will ask anyway:
Is there any way for USB audio (from both audio and video files) playback via adnroid without down or up sampling of the signal?

There are some audio players (UAPP, Onkyo, Hiby, Poweramp) which bypass the original Android USB audio drivers, but no video players which allow that. All of the audio players are very niche products and have terrible user interface.

Ideally, I need a solution at Android driver level. Failing that - a Kodi or other video player plug in or a nice video player that allows that.

It is not a pressing problem at all, but I would really like to know if I missed anything. Let's give this thread 5-10 years and maybe there will be a solution

The hardware device is Nvidia Shield. I understand the easy solution would be to just use a Windows device for media playback instead of an android device.

There is a setting for passing the original sample rate that seems to work for most stuff.

 

[dosifey]

There is a setting for passing the original sample rate that seems to work for most stuff.

Which setting? Where?

 

[WondrousHippo]

Which setting? Where?

Device Preferences, Display and Sound, Advanced Sound Settings, Match content audio resolution

 

[dosifey]

Device Preferences, Display and Sound, Advanced Sound Settings, Match content audio resolution

Oh yes, just as I said earlier - that is only applicable to the HDMI sound, not USB audio.

 

[K man]

I haven't been able to find some clear answers online or on this forum, so I'm raising my questions here.

Is it possible to stream Atmos tracks over Tidal Connect (from an iPhone) to Nvidia Shield?

If possible, does it require the 2019 version (to be recognized as Atmos enabled) and do the decoding on the Nvidia Shield, or will also 2017 and 2015 work where you passthrough the decoding to the receiver (since the source, the iPhone, is Atmos enabled and hence gives access to the Atmos tracks)?

 

[jmtocali]

Not using Tidal connect. You should use the native tidal app on the Shield

 

[K man]

Not using Tidal connect. You should use the native tidal app on the Shield

Does that mean you can't use Tidal Connect at all to stream to the Nvidia Shield? Or just that you can't stream Atmos tracks?

 

[jmtocali]

Does that mean you can't use Tidal Connect at all to stream to the Nvidia Shield? Or just that you can't stream Atmos tracks?

Tidal connect only will work with Chromecast in the Shield. Will work for FLAC but not for Atmos. Also not gapless and not MQA first unfold.

 

[K man]

Tidal connect only will work with Chromecast in the Shield. Will work for FLAC but not for Atmos. Also not gapless and not MQA first unfold.

Thanks for clarifying that.

So currently there is no streamer on the market that can receive Atmos tracks through Tidal Connect?

 

[WohnW]

I use a douk audio U2 for the USB Port to route that into my motu lp32 using spdif/toslink.

In the shield you can usb audio mode set to either stereo (44.1) or stereo high quality which is 192khz (the android resampling)

And i can control volume by using the shield's remote. Just dont set fixed audio volume.

I think the new audio setting in android 11 is for hdmi

Hi, from this what you say I understand that all 44,1 will be upsampled to 192 in stereo high quality, correct? From this point - do you knowledge- if I play NATIVE 192khz - will N Shield make any resampling or just pass to DAC untouched signal?

 

[WohnW]

The item is described as 'Audio Amplifier DAC USB Digital interface of xmos u208 Support PCM32bit/384K DSD256 output coaxial optical IIS(RJ45) AES/EBU' but it's neither an amplifier nor a DAC. It appears to function as a USB to digital bridge. Is this the functionality that you require? The Topping D10(s) is often used for this purpose and would probably be a safer bet, although it only supports coax and optical outputs. There's also a cheaper Douk device that adds I2S output, but lacks any DAC capability... (*edit* I see you already have one of the Douk devices)

Mini XMOS XU208 USB Digital Interface Coaxial/Optical /HDMI/12S Audio Adapter DSD256 32Bit 384K: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo

Free delivery and returns on eligible orders. Buy Mini XMOS XU208 USB Digital Interface Coaxial/Optical /HDMI/12S Audio Adapter DSD256 32Bit 384K at Amazon UK.

www.amazon.co.uk

Also, in general, DAC support on the Nvidia Shield is patchy (at least on the older ones). I could not get an SMSL Sanskit to work at all with my 2015 Shield.

*edit* and welcome to ASR!

Hi, does it mean that Nobsound Douk Audio U2 USB Converter XMOS XU208 is confirmed to work with Nvidia Shield (2017)

 

[carlmart]

Using which audio program can I get 192K in the N Shield?

 

[Berwhale]

Hi, does it mean that Nobsound Douk Audio U2 USB Converter XMOS XU208 is confirmed to work with Nvidia Shield (2017)

I don't know, I don't have one.

 

[Morla]

if I play NATIVE 192khz - will N Shield make any resampling or just pass to DAC untouched signal?

I don't know (have no proof). But I think everything gets resampled over usb just to a different output rate (unless app uses own driver)

 

[phoenixdogfan]

Since I can't get Qobuz to run on my NVidia Shield any other way than to stream it via Bubble Upnp, I decided to load Amazon Music Unlimited, and am currently trialling it. IDK if anyone else has any experience with Amazon Music, but sonically it seems much inferior to Qobuz even Qobuz being streamed to the NVidia. Anyone else think maybe Amazon's music offering though ostensibly lossless on this platform is just not up to snuff?