I think that the predicted in room response tells a lot about the listenning experience, much more than simply the on axis response flatness.I know, but
a) its issues are different
b) what's more important - I'm talking about listening experience, not just "spinorama viewstening"
Amir did definitely like T5Vs, especially so after HF shelving correction.
MLs, as I can tell from the review - not so much.
That made me re-read initial post and when I saw that price is for 1 pcs, not pairFor this kind of money there is no reason this should exist when you can get a pair Neumann KH 120 A or Genelec 8030C, and made in Europe, too
It wasn't 'experience' but preference to be irrelevant, subjective preference. While the unquestioned preference of Harman's test panel at Harman's white coat and glasses test facility makes the scientific proof. I withstand the temptation to generalize this scheme.... there is some positive things but overall typical "Harman believer" and his "you experience is irrelevant" is as smart as those on opposite side who burn-in cable stands
300 each: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/adam-t8v-studio-monitor-review.17118/That made me re-read initial post and when I saw that price is for 1 pcs, not pair
Well well, Adam A7V joins the party - if someone wants AMT driver just because
But IMO cheap T7V may be enough to make ML look stupid. Or maybe not. That requires listening
THANKS for re-posting this, we are definitely living in good times when an active speaker this good is only $300!
Do you have any facts or just silly emoji’s? (about how much bass contributes to listener preference - as this was the initial question in case you need to remember).
Makes me laugh every freaking time.
For more gags and keks I recommed to deeply read all their stuff with all that BS like "making one phones sound like another one" - equalizing Stax 909 iirc.
Ofc there is some positive things but overall typical "Harman believer" and his "you experience is irrelevant" is as smart as those on opposite side who burn-in cable stands
Facts of what? Facts that overall failed (if not, then show me JBL and Infinity hi-fi speakers lineups still alive) and sold out audio group "discovered" - can you believe that? - that masses prefer non-linear response with bumped* bass, recessed mids and accentuated high-mids/lower treble?any facts
Two things.Facts of what? Facts that overall failed (if not, then show me JBL and Infinity hi-fi speakers lineups still alive) and sold out audio group "discovered" - can you believe that? - that masses prefer non-linear response with bumped* bass, recessed mids and accentuated high-mids/lower treble?
*blah blah preferrence
Yes, that works. No, that's definitely not a Holy Grail of True Sound. Just a specific look on "how it should sound to get more likes".
EQing different cans to Harman Target doesn't make them sound even close to each other. Because - can you believe, again? - physically different cans perform differently, starting from how it fits different listener heads and ending at specific distortion/coloration and reaction to applied EQ with its boosts.
I agree.The finish is a factor for many.
I like your post because it brings up a lot of questions.This Martin Logan isn't bad at all, just imperfect, so why deny its rght to exist simply cause it's imperfect ? Our forum colleague Unplugged claims quite a totaliterian point of view by writing such a thing.
I'll try again. I dent someones car. The owner yells: "That dent must not exist!", I reply: "You totalitarian!" As I already hear your caveat, totalirism is a matter of ownership? We better spear the term for more serious issues, won't we?Simply put, ...
That speaker measures pretty well:How would this speaker compare to something like Paradigm Studio 20 v5? I owned those speakers for the past 7 years, I don't think they are considered bad speakers, but as far as an upgrade for improved audio fidelity, I'm looking at upgrading to a new bookshelf speaker.
Thank you for your thoughts. In your opinion what would you consider as an upgrade to these speakers in terms of sound quality? I already own a subwoofer so low frequencies are covered.That speaker measures pretty well:
(Note that the bass hump is an artifact of Stereophile's measuring methodology.)
It's possible to get better measuring speakers, but whether they would sound better to your ears in your room is impossible to say.
Also, if you don't already have some form of room correction, this is more likely to result in better sound than new speakers.
And no room modes/nodes!My current system is located on my patio with only one wall and 3 open sides and a 12' high vaulted ceiling. It consists of a Benchmark DAC2 with the XL out into a Buckeye/Hypex NC252 that drives a pair of B&W AM1 speakers full range. The RCA out of the Benchmark feeds an old 10" Velodyne sub, that has a remote to control the volume. The cross over is set at 60Hz.
Sound is incredibly clean with plenty of base.