Killingbeans
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So what's going on here?
Either they're failing to compare apples to apples. No level matching, listening to two wildly different masters etc.
Or it's one of the usual suspects:
So what's going on here?
BS audio. He's a moron and a liar. Why beat around the bush.I checked out their site, they sell very expensive equipment, are they any good?
Or, just possibly, the question in the vid is a fabrication and PM just wants to advertise his new product?Either they're failing to compare apples to apples. No level matching, listening to two wildly different masters etc.
Or it's one of the usual suspects:
He literally tells lies in his videos every day. He's a narcissist who wants to sell you $5,000 IEC cables so he can get another Tesla. He knows nothing about recording but feels qualified to declare albums recorded at all the best studios, for major artists "badly recorded records." He does this so he can get the newbs and otherwise uninitiated to believe the recordings he makes at his vanity recording studio are better than the ones made at Abbey Road, so you will give him more of your money. Search the ASR videos for reviews of the DSD recordings from his label.I stumbled onto this video, and I know something about networking web coming from an engineering background. Who is this guy and is he full of nonsense??
I don't understand how streaming has anything to do with sound quality. The file being sent over wifi, LAN or whatever medium (even 5G) has nothing to do with the quality of that file. That's like saying ripped Blurays are less quality, they are EXACTLY THE SAME!
Am I losing my mind here? Something I don't know?
The only place where streamers downsample the music is in certain bluetooth scenarios where they compress the file due to BT's limited bandwith (if you're not using the latest hardware)
But with wifi, ethernet, there's no loss absolutely, so what on earth is he talking about?
The typical bitrate on UHD Blu-ray is 60 to 80 mbits/sec, so much higher than what is used in streaming.On the other hand, the compression on (for example) blueray - or even on Netflix at 25Mb/s+ is not going to be noticeable in most circumstances.
He literally tells lies in his videos every day. He's a narcissist who wants to sell you $5,000 IEC cables so he can get another Tesla. He knows nothing about recording but feels qualified to declare albums recorded at all the best studios, for major artists "badly recorded records." He does this so he can get the newbs and otherwise uninitiated to believe the recordings he makes at his vanity recording studio are better than the ones made at Abbey Road, so you will give him more of your money. Search the ASR videos for reviews of the DSD recordings from his label.
WITH cable lifters.That's only because you haven't watched his videos through a $10K HDMI cable that was cryogenically treated and exorcised by Tibetian monks.
I've called more than once and spoken with their reps. I've also crawled over the specs for their M1200 monoblocks. I can't speak to their sound but after more research including ASR I dumped the M1200s for an Apollon Purifi for $3700 less. Not looking back.I checked out their site, they sell very expensive equipment, are they any good?
I don’t normally watch his videos, but I took the bait this time. Wow, so much FUD combined with so little knowledge on the subject.I stumbled onto this video, and I know something about networking web coming from an engineering background. Who is this guy and is he full of nonsense??
I don't understand how streaming has anything to do with sound quality. The file being sent over wifi, LAN or whatever medium (even 5G) has nothing to do with the quality of that file. That's like saying ripped Blurays are less quality, they are EXACTLY THE SAME!
Am I losing my mind here? Something I don't know?
The only place where streamers downsample the music is in certain bluetooth scenarios where they compress the file due to BT's limited bandwith (if you're not using the latest hardware)
But with wifi, ethernet, there's no loss absolutely, so what on earth is he talking about?
If anything he says is remotely true, it would be impossible to play even standard definition video off of the internet much less 4K without an $8000 galvanically isolated top box. But oh my god, my $50 4k Chromecast device seems to deliver digital video just fine. How is that even possible ???there's one point where he says that if you stream over a "network" whether its a LAN or a WAN then its a 'noisy' process... he doesnt know why, it just is... and his product, the 'galvanically isolated' "Air-Lens" solves this issue... an issue he has no idea how or why it happens... BUT he can fix it.
DOES ANYONE THINK THIS IS NUTS????
if you can get a FLAC from your local nas or from a server in Sweden and you can get it without errors then it should be... the same? its just 0/1 after all... your DAC wont know the difference.
How is this not.... accepted? as science?
If anything he says is remotely true, it would be impossible to play even standard definition video off of the internet much less 4K without an $8000 galvanically isolated top box. But oh my god, my $50 4k Chromecast device seems to deliver digital video just fine. How is that even possible ???
And since FLAC has internal checksums the decoder can tell you whether there were any errors.if you can get a FLAC from your local nas or from a server in Sweden and you can get it without errors then it should be... the same? its just 0/1 after all... your DAC wont know the difference.
As you probably know then, video files are extremely large so compression schemes like H.265 are naturally lossy and very much so. Audio though is much smaller and streaming services store them losslessly usually in flac format for their "high-fi" tier subscribes. These schemes are much simpler as they are not attempting to figure out human perception. They use predictive coding to reduce natural redundancy in audio streams. Once decoded, you get the original file back much like .zip does for files. Delivering those files over the internet vs locally from a disc is the same then.
Yes it’s a bit strange isn’t it. But I suspect the answer is Audiophiles/Hifi …. The whole Hifi industry and Audiophile hobby is built around improving your sound quality therefore anything that affects (or potentially affects) sound quality is under scrutiny. The same focus doesn’t really apply to anything like the same level with video.Exactly, so even with video files, people don't really complain too much but how come with audio files, there's this huge scrutiny in quality?
For example: a JPEG at 85-90% compression, you cannot tell it from a 100% perfect image.
For audio, an MP3 at 90% compression, can you really tell from a FLAC or CD?
But I suspect the answer is Audiophiles/Hifi …. The whole Hifi industry and Audiophile hobby is built around improving your sound quality therefore anything that affects (or potentially affects) sound quality is under scrutiny.
For audio, an MP3 at 90% compression, can you really tell from a FLAC or CD?
Yes it’s a bit strange isn’t it. But I suspect the answer is Audiophiles/Hifi …. The whole Hifi industry and Audiophile hobby is built around improving your sound quality therefore anything that affects (or potentially affects) sound quality is under scrutiny. The same focus doesn’t really apply to anything like the same level with video.
You are very lucky then that you can be satisfied that your £100 Dac and £200 amp playing Spotify can ably compete with a £10000+ system playing HI Def, certainly should save you some money.That's a... positive way of looking at it.
I'd say that people grossly overestimate their abilities and happily let expectation bias stop them from ever coming to that conclusion.
The result being that tons of things are being put on pedestals under the pretense of "scrutiny", even though they don't actually mean squat.
But that's just my grumpy view of the situation
Probably not with a good algorithm. You could possibly find a tell if you specifically look for it, but I doub't there'll be a noticeable difference in overall quality.