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Introducing Tonal – A Minimalist Music App for Collectors and Audiophiles

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Hello, members of ASR!

We’re looking for some pilot users for a new service. If you’re a music collector or audiophile with a Mac computer, I believe our new solution Tonal will bring you a better music experience.

Tonal is a minimalist music app for collectors and audiophiles. With Tonal, your complete digital collection is organized in one place and is ready to be streamed anytime, anywhere. That may sound unfancy, but there’re three foundational innovations which clearly differentiate the Tonal experience from the competition.
  1. A managed cloud-based music locker service with audio quality verification built-in.
  2. An innovative metadata solution which focuses on standard, quality, and community collaboration.
  3. A well-crafted playback engine which ensures highly predictable audiophile performance.
Anyone interested can read more and download the initial version from below link (more screenshots included):

https://medium.com/tonal-app/introducing-tonal-74c748f200b9

This thread will be monitored. Feel free to ask me any question.

Some screenshots of the Tonal app:

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Will there will be support for DSD and/or multichannel?
Tonal takes control of every single detail from audio verification to streaming. The playback engine is highly original and rather low-level.

So, Yes! DSD (DoP) and multichannel support are possible. But do you mind waiting until the core concept of Tonal is accepted by our community? Plus, we have a special automated output device optimization process, I wish I could gather some feedbacks from pilot users on the audiophile performance.
 

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Tonal takes control of every single detail from audio verification to streaming. The playback engine is highly original and rather low-level.

So, Yes! DSD (DoP) and multichannel support are possible. But do you mind waiting until the core concept of Tonal is accepted by our community? Plus, we have a special automated output device optimization process, I wish I could gather some feedbacks from pilot users on the audiophile performance.
Google Kal Rubinson and Stereophile; I think you'll find his insights could be interesting.

Any plans for Windows? I do not own a Mac.
 

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The Apple fell from the tree and was lost here around 1998.

I haven't missed it.
 
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Google Kal Rubinson and Stereophile; I think you'll find his insights could be interesting.

Any plans for Windows? I do not own a Mac.
Wow, glad to know Kal is a famous columnist! His suggestion is indeed pertinent: DSD support is on the to-do list.

For a Windows version: it takes time. When a reference Mac release is accepted by the community, we’ll start working on a Windows counterpart.
 

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I am always concerned about long-term cloud-storage access and security.
 
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I am always concerned about long-term cloud storage security.
Great question!

The disc registration process is performed in your personal iCloud drive, even the operation team (developer) has no read/write permission. Plus, there’s no username/password to maintain, and actually, we know nothing about our users.
 

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Security also means security of retrieval or loss of content.

An example is a web-based photo sharing service that offered free file storage. The company changed its terms and conditions and only provided retrieval to paid subscribers. Those who didn't subsequently subscribe basically lost their photos.
 

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Great question!

The disc registration process is performed in your personal iCloud drive, even the operation team (developer) has no read/write permission. Plus, there’s no username/password to maintain, and actually, we know nothing about our users.
Is the actual uploaded music stored in, and streamed from, our personal iCloud drives?
 

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I may be non-typical but despite being a Mac user for over 30 years I don't like the idea of the cloud storage that they introduced a while ago downgrading the functionality of much of the software I had been using for ages from my point of view.
I will not be using any cloud based music system now or in the future.
 
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I may be non-typical but despite being a Mac user for over 30 years I don't like the idea of the cloud storage that they introduced a while ago downgrading the functionality of much of the software I had been using for ages from my point of view.
I will not be using any cloud based music system now or in the future.
Hello, Frank! Thank you for sharing your valuable thoughts. I believe I understand your concern. Local storage gives me more confidence as well.

Sometimes I’m afraid of losing my digital collection (hard drive failure, etc.) or lack of accessibility (leaving home without external drive or NAS). I’m not preaching the cloud-based concept, Tonal is just an experiment.

As a collector, I would like to give it a try and see if it works for me. If you give it a try, you may find other features such as the managed metadata engine very interesting.

Have a nice day!
 
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Is the actual uploaded music stored in, and streamed from, our personal iCloud drives?
Hello, Randem! What a wonderful question!
  1. The audio (in a proprietary format, without any metadata or personal information) is secured in a content-addressable cloud storage.
  2. The key to access above audio and link above audio to according metadata is registered in your private iCloud storage. Only you have the read/write access.
  3. Since we only store the key in your iCloud storage, the extra storage required for iCloud drive is quite small (usually in kilo-bytes).
  4. We don’t know our users’ name, email, iCloud account, etc.
Please let me know if you have further questions. Nice day!
 

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