It depends if you want to know what the amplifier is capable of, i.e. under continuous tone conditions, or what it's putting out at any one time whilst you're listening. For the former, you need the equipment mentioned in my post above. To put it simplistically, you inject a signal and crank up the level until you can just see clipping on the 'scope, then measure the volts. Power is V^2/R, so 28.3volts into 8 ohm is 100 watts.There is one thing that I would like to know how to measure: actual watts my amplifier is putting out at the loudspeaker terminals. I know that if I play loud I pull about 90 watts from the wall, but that doesn't say a lot because of efficiency (class ab) and because of the peaks the amplifier might actually be outputting that are taken care of by its reserves.
I'm mainly interested in actual listening conditions, because I already know how much power it can produce for a continuous tone. I just want to see how much I'm putting in my speakersIt depends if you want to know what the amplifier is capable of, i.e. under continuous tone conditions, or what it's putting out at any one time whilst you're listening. For the former, you need the equipment mentioned in my post above. To put it simplistically, you inject a signal and crank up the level until you can just see clipping on the 'scope, then measure the volts. Power is V^2/R, so 28.3volts into 8 ohm is 100 watts.
If you want to see how much instantaneous power you're putting out at any one time whilst listening, you'll need a calibrated peak-meter that's measuring across the loudspeaker terminals. Those are rather rare, and you'll probably have to build one yourself from a true-peak PPM or similar.
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Sorry I find asking people who know more than me an effective way to learn, fine if that isn't how you do things but would you mind not replying if its just to be rude.
I knew nothing about using REW to do room correction, however I asked on this forum and some very helpful people stepped in and helped me get started.
I am in the beginner section am I not?
Yes, just outside Bury St Edmunds. Been here since the mid 1980s.Thanks for the help Serge!
Are you actually based in Suffolk? I grew up in Ipswich![]()
I'm mainly interested in actual listening conditions, because I already know how much power it can produce for a continuous tone. I just want to see how much I'm putting in my speakers![]()
Marantz PM-16 + Revel M106:What amp and speakers are you talking about ?
Amps, for instance that double the output power when halving the impedance will have the same 'peak power' as nominal power (sort-of) but if your amp doesn't do that there is likely a bit more (very short moment) peak power available.
I have a peak-power meter you could loan (assume you are Dutch) I built specially for this type of measurements.
Within NL I can send it over.
Marantz PM-16 + Revel M106:
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I believe a German magazine measured it and its actual output is 10-20% higher.
And thanks for the offer, but its mostly out of interest to see how much is true about the "you only need x watts" story you hear all the time.
Thanks for the link to Quant Asylum @Blumlein 88 .
They have some great resources on their site too.
@solderdude ok cool that you're not trying to be rude but I still think you're wrong.
To your point:
"Those making measurements already know what to measure, how to measure it and how to interpret the results."
At one stage they didn't know how to measure either, they had to learn! This is the first stage of my learning! Hope you wish me well![]()