I'd imagine it would depend how obvious the distortion was, if it's super obvious & in-your-face then I guess a mic would capture that regardless of the inaccuracies associated with "mic -> recording -> playback on unknown speakers/rooms/headphones", but then if it's so obvious why the need to hear it for yourself - surely the word of a reviewer like Amir would be good enough in that case. I suppose it could emphasise the point being made though.I dont get you. I not talk about fine points, what ever they should be. Comparing this speakers at 90db is not about fine points, its about a lot of bass distourten. My post was only a reaction on @iMickey503 post. The last think i like to start is how usefull yt ab comparisons are at finer level. But i think even at yt you can hear a difference between a cowbell and a bassdrum.
I don't think you've convinced me with those Youtube links, I did listen to them. For Erin's, yes the different speakers sound different, but it's mostly tonality, I don't think you can seperate soundstage from tonality unless they all have the same tonality (as tonality (frequency response) affects soundstage) - they certainly sound different though. Your own Youtube vids, I don't really get what you're trying to show there.....and given the quality I don't think there was anything to distinguish.....well the different drivers sounded different because some were tweeters & some were instead playing the bottom ranges or fuller ranges.....so nothing really to discern there, I don't really get the point there. I'm not really seeing the value of mic recorded speakers to then listen back over whatever device you're using.Then what is the Reference standard headphone and listening setup? Surely with today technology and knowledge this has been thought of so that they can remotely convey an experience to another in today modern day and age with some kind of industry standard?
I'm sure those Specialists in the field of Audiologists have pondered this at least sometime in their field of medicine if they are diagnosing hearing issues so they can make a legal verified and liable claim of diagnosis for said medical diagnosis with some kind of universal industry approved reference standard? Or maybe the RIAA or AES or someone must have thought about this already? Some of those recording engineers must do remote work right?
The reason why I cry foul about this idea that "you can't hear this " is that people can tell the difference in sounds over a POTS telephone that has a bandwidth that is less than AM radio. 911 operators can deduce a surprising amount of information of a call. So So there's plenty to notice. Even with limited bandwidth and crummy reproduction devices. The onus really is on the trained listener IMO.
~180hz - 3.2Khz Apx.
A better test of hearing details would be to hear a voice you know or care about. Say my Niece yesterday for example. About 30 humans of various ages on the school playground. Lots of background noise. And even with all that, 250 or so feet away, I can pick out and hear Clearly as day when she says "Uncle" no matter what and can home in and pinpoint where that squeaky shrimps voice comes from.
I can even pick out charatrists if she is in any sort of distress in her voice when said "Uncle" is heard or a scream depending on pitch being "Oh shit" or "Its nothing, shes fine". I have not tested it. But I could make out at least her voice over a cell phone that has slighty higher bandwidth to ~7Khz.
Unless your microphone has the fidelity of an AM radio? I think anyone with any competency and a microphone on a modern cell phone should be able to showcase these said distortions that are indeed audible.
Erin just put up a video where he did a Blind listening test of 3 different speakers. Anyone can tell they sound different even over youtube.
Since the goal is not to hear Ben folds farting on his CD, we are here to HEAR distortions in Ben Folds Farting while he plays the piano and Distortions of said farts in the Speakers on playback. It should be easy to reproduce flaws in the playback that we can pick out with these with test. Even on sub par gear if they are indeed audible. (That or the electrostatics were making their own fart noises)
Otherwise? Measurement Microphones are a meme. And the the ones that cost big money is just buying tone. Not detail. So there goes the audio business. We can just use iPhones from now on. Dig?
We have some Serious bonafide hard as nails die hard booth junkies in here. I'm pretty sure with all that brain power and experience something can be hatched out.
A good reference would be what Alexa sounds like in case you have no freinds to compare drivers or distortion. File included bellow. You can tell and HEAR distortion at FULL tilt. Even with the music being full of it. You can hear the drivers not doing their job of signal in, signal out. Enjoy my Ugly Tax payer funded grill and this distortion riddled music.
3 examples are given. And on my system in my car? I can hear the microphone preamp/ DA noise FAINTLY that I can not hear on my headphones. Maybe its just me? But its a direct to digital recording with the O.G. Files. You can inspect them for playback quality.
And thats with just commodity gear anyone can get. I suspect many of us have better gear then the rest of the public.
Fuck I type to much.
EDIT. Zip file is to large. Posting Youtube videos.
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Test of each driver where you can hear break up and sound of each driver at point blank range. (1- 3 inches away from grill or speaker. )
ASUS CP101a Hot built in stereo microphone with AGC compared to UMM-6
EDIT: for Erin's vid, it just seemed like the same effect as someone playing the same bit of music whilst flipping between different EQ profiles and loudnesses.
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