AudioSceptic
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Yes, as I suggested a bit further on.An iPhone can be the remote of a M1 dead silent USB out to DAC new MacBook or MacMini. Can also be your local music server.
Yes, as I suggested a bit further on.An iPhone can be the remote of a M1 dead silent USB out to DAC new MacBook or MacMini. Can also be your local music server.
Some turntables have a pre amp built inA phono preamp is needed. The A8 doesn’t have a phono stage.
All you have to do is desire to have all of these "computers" in your stereo gear and, if you do not live where the cell phone and other signals work all the time, move to a place that it does.An iPhone can be the remote of a M1 dead silent USB out to DAC new MacBook or MacMini. Can also be your local music server. The MIDI app gives you as lot to play with in the digital domain before sending signal to the DAC. The only issue is lack of HDMI ARC, but as long as Apple is your source and not the TV, you don’t need that feedback loop. I stream everything from my iPhone to the MacMini to the TV, so no HDMI ARC necessary.
So I can have my records (from 1927 to now, on a NAS & rip my CDs to the onboard SSD (which I could replace with a larger one if needed? [perhaps including my records])You do t have to, just rip your cds/downloads to the onboard SSD.
Keith
I have mine permanently on the floor next to my TV stand & speakers, so I see what you mean! It's possible with the right furniture & layout you could just have the laptop next to the sound system on a table/counter/stand surface. The aesthetics of this Eversolo A8 streamer could end up looking better in an audio system I suppose, but many people don't mind.
It seems that this product is trying to be everything for everyone (apart from a sub output): a streamer with the music files on a computer or NAS on your network, a complete player using a directly attached SSD, or both.So I can have my records (from 1927 to now, on a NAS & rip my CDs to the onboard SSD (which I could replace with a larger one if needed? [perhaps including my records])
and have more or less a one box solution (as long as I had a backup of what's in it?
If this is correct, then that is more or less what I thought the first time I read it & then, the later posts just seemed to me to make it more & more complex.
Thank you for this & any further input.
This seems like it may be the solution to a "sprawl" problem that I have with my system.
Maybe in a later iteration they'll get 2 sub outs.It seems that this product is trying to be everything for everyone (apart from a sub output): a streamer with the music files on a computer or NAS on your network, a complete player using a directly attached SSD, or both.
Yes, but when you use a laptop as part of your audio system it doesn't have to be on the floor, it's not a prerequisite of laptop usage!I think you will find a lot of spouses looking at you like you have grown two heads if you suggest having a laptop permanently on the floor in the living room.
Agreed. Surely it can be put on something. Being on the floor is not good anyway, because dust tends to settle there.Yes, but when you use a laptop as part of your audio system it doesn't have to be on the floor, it's not a prerequisite of laptop usage!
I appreciate that my wife and others can GROK the ability to use the home stereo system more than my need to control said system.I would vote for the laptop every time. It does more and offers a superior screen. Personally, I appreciate the ability to control access to my sound system.
I would vote for the laptop every time. It does more and offers a superior screen. Personally, I appreciate the ability to control access to my sound system.
Horses for courses.Either way, the point is "why not use a laptop" is not a very insightful argument against a product like this. The use case is to get something that looks nice, has good functionality and just works. A laptop only covers one of those three.
Even in my dedicated listening room where basically only I use the system I would prefer a component like this over a laptop (and also do use such a component and not a laptop). And in the living room where everyone is using the system, a laptop would be completely out of the question.
Is the SNR values referenced to Volts or Power (Watt) ? It is an ongoing debate somewhere else about this ,and I trust you to have the correct answer of the correct term/method to useThis is a review and detailed measurements of the Eversolo DMP-A8 balanced DAC, Streamer, HDMI ARC, and Analog/digital Preamplifier with DSP support. It was sent to me by the company and costs US $1,980.
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The DMP-A8 is stylish and functional in every sense of the words. Running Android with a high-speed processor, navigation is smooth and very rich. I am assuming the same CPU is used for DSP implementation of equalization, delay and compression as it works for all inputs (output must be analog however). The usual App is provided for the controlbut I was disappointed that a hard remote was not.Back panel shows the very rich connectivity:
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Really, I can't think of a thing that is missing there. The DMP-A8 can easily be the heart of a modern system with support for legacy analog inputs as well.
Volume control provides excellent channel matching courtesy of stepped relay control.
Beauty extends to the insides:
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There are many features available such as per input volume preset.
The unit was sent to me many months ago but I wanted to review it when Roon was implemented and it is now.
If you are not familiar with measurements that are about to follow, please watch my tutorial:
Eversolo DMP-A8 Digital Measurements
I streamed my reference test signal over Ethernet from Roon, capturing balanced output:
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This is within shouting distance of state of the art stand-alone DACs:
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Surprisingly, there is no hit to using RCA output:
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There is a slight difference in dynamic range however:
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Performance gets a bit better if you crank up the volume to max:
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Multitone performance is superb:
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As is linearity:
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Jitter is nearly so and is input independent:
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IMD vs level shows a slight rise in noise in mid-level but it is inconsequential:
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Looking at the spectrum (not shown), noise floor moved up just a hair at -37 dB.
Driving an unrealistically low impedance of 600 Ohm doesn't bother the A8 at all:
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Nor does it care what frequency you throw at it:
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The DAC in use is AKM and we have the usual set of filters available:
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Eversolo DMP-A8 Analog Preamplifier Measurements
I stayed with XLR input and output to keep the measurement set manageable. I selected volume control at 0 dB (it allows excursion well above that):
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Wow! I was not expecting this. This is amazing performance. I thought it is digitizing the input but it is not (which sadly means DSP is not available for it either).
Across every measurement, performance is superb:
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Reducing level to just 50 mv still provides excellent dynamic range:
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That good noise performance translates into IMD vs level as well:
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Making sure nothing bad happens when volume is reduced, here it is at -10 dB:
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Crosstalk is superb:
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And no frequency dependency:
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Conclusions
In just about every area you look at, the DMP-A8 brings class leading performance combined with functionality that is not available elsewhere. All is put together in an elegant packaging with extensibility and openness of the Android OS. Critical features such as equalization and compression are provided. The only missesare lack of included hard remoteand absence of DSP on analog input. The latter does translate into better performance than any digitizing analog preamp.
It is with my absolute pleasure to recommend the Eversolo DMP-A8 streamer and DAC. It is expensive but just doesn't get better than this folks.
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I am sure that at a HiFi fair near you, there will be a friendly salesperson with a special audiophile laptop stand to offer you, made out of cryogenically treated nanocarbon, with titanium plating and an acoustically decoupled crystal glass base.Yes, but when you use a laptop as part of your audio system it doesn't have to be on the floor, it's not a prerequisite of laptop usage!
No difference between the A-6 and ‘master’ version, the analogue path stays analogue I believe digital stays digital.Guys, have a question that is bothering me because of a thing that a seller said about the A8, would like to see if anyone measured or knows anything about it.
The seller told me that the digital out of the A8 always passes the signal through the R2R volume network, thus, degrading the signal. I might have missed the measurement regarding this on Amir's review but, it is rather important for me as I have integrated amplifiers that I would like to use this device with. I would hate to learn that the volume control circuitry of the A8 is always at play regardless of usage scenario. Thanks.
Oh, and the seller is pushing me towards the A6-Master, stating that model is more appropriate for that kind of integrated amplifier usage...