MikeFromNorway
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Hello guys.
This is my first post so please be patient with me.
First of all. Thank you all for such a fantastic source, full of quality, reliable information. Must say, wow! Been following you for more then 5 years, very impressed.
I've been in the hifi-hobby game since 1994. Got my first Klispch KG 4.2, since upgradet with Bob Crites parts and now moved them to my home cinema setup. Changed to Klipsch Heresy, then a big step up to Forsman D2-8 (dipols). Then a step back again to Klipsch Corwnall v3. And now finally my reference the Forsman D2-10s for the last 3 years. Added DSP through Sonarworks Reference and must say, for the first time I can see the music, not just imagine it while listening.
The living room is 4x7meters (13x23feet), walls in thick wood. Ceiling in uneven old wood with visible building structure. This makes it less reflective. The room is fairly treated with carpet, lounge matress on the floor, sound absorbing pictures, sofas ++. Decent acoustics for a living room. Speaker placement 4 feet from backwall, 2 feet from sidewalls and sweet spot makes a triangle of about 10x10x10feet. Measures pretty flat from 34-20khz after removing a 100hz +6db bump and another two +4,5db bumps at 1 and around 4khz.
So you got the backround and setup. Now to the question, where your opinions would be welcome. The quest for the right sound is still there. I stumbled upon a thread discussing studio monitors and based on my budget, knowledge and avalability in Norway the following seems like a good combo.
Neumann KH420 + Neumann KH870.
I get the price of the KH420s. But what happened with the KH870? are we paying for the fancy electronics on the back? the possibility to connect a 7.7 (or something like it) setup? I only need stereo. The price of each sub is comparable, at least here in Norway, to any super high end/super high priced sub. Eg. B&W DB1D, JL Fantom 113, SVS ultra, and so on... The flipside is that those "more common" home hifi subs are often available on the used marked in Norway for half the price. For example the JL's (see link). And the output on them is often higher as well.
The question is then, is my listed combo so damn good working together that the total price of the pack will justify the expensive subs? Or would you guys recommend another sub... for the setup?
One example would be going for the Minidsp Studio and controlling 2 subs of a non Neumann brand together with the Neumann KH420s from its Dirac DSP and still spend less money...
ref.
Potential setup:
My first speaker:
My actual speaker:
This is my first post so please be patient with me.
First of all. Thank you all for such a fantastic source, full of quality, reliable information. Must say, wow! Been following you for more then 5 years, very impressed.
I've been in the hifi-hobby game since 1994. Got my first Klispch KG 4.2, since upgradet with Bob Crites parts and now moved them to my home cinema setup. Changed to Klipsch Heresy, then a big step up to Forsman D2-8 (dipols). Then a step back again to Klipsch Corwnall v3. And now finally my reference the Forsman D2-10s for the last 3 years. Added DSP through Sonarworks Reference and must say, for the first time I can see the music, not just imagine it while listening.
The living room is 4x7meters (13x23feet), walls in thick wood. Ceiling in uneven old wood with visible building structure. This makes it less reflective. The room is fairly treated with carpet, lounge matress on the floor, sound absorbing pictures, sofas ++. Decent acoustics for a living room. Speaker placement 4 feet from backwall, 2 feet from sidewalls and sweet spot makes a triangle of about 10x10x10feet. Measures pretty flat from 34-20khz after removing a 100hz +6db bump and another two +4,5db bumps at 1 and around 4khz.
So you got the backround and setup. Now to the question, where your opinions would be welcome. The quest for the right sound is still there. I stumbled upon a thread discussing studio monitors and based on my budget, knowledge and avalability in Norway the following seems like a good combo.
Neumann KH420 + Neumann KH870.
I get the price of the KH420s. But what happened with the KH870? are we paying for the fancy electronics on the back? the possibility to connect a 7.7 (or something like it) setup? I only need stereo. The price of each sub is comparable, at least here in Norway, to any super high end/super high priced sub. Eg. B&W DB1D, JL Fantom 113, SVS ultra, and so on... The flipside is that those "more common" home hifi subs are often available on the used marked in Norway for half the price. For example the JL's (see link). And the output on them is often higher as well.
The question is then, is my listed combo so damn good working together that the total price of the pack will justify the expensive subs? Or would you guys recommend another sub... for the setup?
One example would be going for the Minidsp Studio and controlling 2 subs of a non Neumann brand together with the Neumann KH420s from its Dirac DSP and still spend less money...
ref.
Potential setup:
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My first speaker:
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