MikeFromNorway
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@kipman725, @FrantzMI went through this subwoofer debate as well, and I landed on a Genelec (bought used for a good deal) in my office, and a pair of SVS SB3000s for my main system. Honestly, there's almost no beating the "consumer" level stuff out there, it works better at the same price as the studio gear, and often by a wide margin.
The DIY route sounds good until you get into finishes... once you veneer or finish those DIY cabinets to a level matching the mass production stuff, you're often within spitting distance. If you plan to just cover the box in carpet or something, no doubt, the DIY stuff is compelling.
Another thing I didn't do but considered in the DIY space, and which might work for you, is an infinite baffle sub... drivers outside the room, with vents / ports into the room. No clutter, super crazy performance, but obviously not simple.
This might be a stupid question, but anyway. Could someone please enlight me when it comes to subwoofer quality/price. I have read the paper on sub placements, I have tried to search the forum on sub-quality. There is a lot of discussion on the output - as in databass measurements.
Searching the web on sub-quality vs performance or the liking gives med balony artticles about "yes, subwoofer cables matter".
I understand there is a consencus that 2 or more cheaper subs are better then one expensive. But...
What differentiates the expencieve from the cheap? is it audiable? anyone with clever comentes, articles or links, please enlighten me. I will give you an example that made me think:
For sale right now in Norway are 2 Martin Longan 212 subs:
Subwoofer Martin Logan Balancedforce 212
2 stk subwoofere: Martin Logan Balancedforce 212. Kraftige saker. NB! Pianolakk-farge med litt striper. Selges derfor meget billig, begge to til kr. 40000. Nypris for tiden på Oslo Hifi Center: 59 900 pr stk. Disse er så tunge at jeg ønsker ikke å sende dem, må hentes! H: 54 cm, B: 56 cm, D: 56 cm.
www.finn.no
It looks like an insane deal as you pay 1/3 the price for a "reference sub" (don't know what that would imply though).
Though, for the same price I can buy 2 brand new Arendal subs 2s
New, with warranty, higher SPL and so on.
I've asked a few dealers. They look with dark eyes on the cheaper subs like SVS, Arendals and so on. "Cabinet resonance, 2 drivers could play out of phase, cheap drivers, cabinets and builds" and so on. Not very scientific.