does anyone listen to Taylor Swift? tell me what the draw is

[Axo1989]

... Luckily, people with less than zero interest are interested enough to post about their less than zero interest.

Performative tribal (or generational) virtue/vice signalling requires a signal, after all. A signal, or just some noise.

 

[phoenixdogfan]

There are many reasons over the history of pop/rock that has guided many singers success.
A big part of which has always been in their looks.
A big part of which seems reversely keyed to their talent. LOL

Unless you're talking Linda Ronstadt, Stevie Nicks, Joni Mitchell, Ann Wilson, Grace Slick, Nora Jones, Ariana Grande, Eva Cassidy, Sade, Cher, or Adele.

 

[Sal1950]

Unless you're talking Linda Ronstadt, Stevie Nicks, Joni Mitchell, Ann Wilson, Grace Slick, Nora Jones, Ariana Grande, Eva Cassidy, Sade, Cher, or Adele.

You got a point. LOL

 

[rank]

I mainly listen to notable performers. GG Allin or Mötley Crüe (I even have Vince Neil's solo records, imagine!). For example.
What she "does" has already been done and it doesn't need to be repeated. Most of these female performers are, as in the cinema, above all bodies that can be a good backdrop. With the clothes that go with it (generally quite a few).
I don't have a lot of female singers I listen to because in fact they seek above all to please, without innovating. I have Grace Slick yes, even Sandie Shaw or Françoise Hardy. The only one to have created an innovative and inimitable style seems to be Nico.
I like the Runaways, Suzi Quatro, early Patti Smith and Siouxsie etc... But they didn't invent anything.

 

[antcollinet]

Most of these female performers are, as in the cinema, above all bodies that can be a good backdrop

Wow - you went there

 

[Axo1989]

Wow - you went there

Haha I so resisted commenting on that post. But I’m glad you did.

 

[rank]

Go where ? Have you seen the cover of his latest album? Everything is said, right?

 

[Multicore]

Have you seen the cover of his latest album?

I have now, since you mentioned it.

Everything is said, right?

I've no idea what you mean.

 

[rank]

This one.

 

[vert]

My daughter happens to like her (9 years old, non English speaking) but I think it'll just be a phase. I'm not impressed with her songs or her voice. Most of all, the tickets we were interested in for our daughter at her show in Zurich were a very pretentious $600 each, which is out of all proportion with Swift's talent, and very uncool to her young fans, whose families are not rich for the most part.

 

[rank]

Why not 1000? We would have to see the figures for "her" album sales to see if that's enough for these people to become and remain billionaires. She seems even more greedy than Prince was, that's saying something.
I learned about its existence from Tracking Angle.
I tried to listen to "her" work but it's totally beyond my strength (declining it must be admitted).
And yet I'm used to cold meat because I was marked for life by the demonstration discs that my ex-employers used to pass on Threshold, Piega or Audio Research to their faithful customers.
I have four children, not one listen to music, watch movies or TV.

 

[MRC01]

... I have four children, not one listen to music, watch movies or TV.

What about making/playing music? All kids should have that opportunity, it is great for development both mental & physical.

 

[Sal1950]

What about making/playing music? All kids should have that opportunity, it is great for development both mental & physical.

Absolutely! I fooled around with a few instruments as a youngster, trumpet and accordion, etc.
But one of the biggest regrets of my life is that I didn't have the stick-to-it to really get good at anything.
I've been fooling with a keyboard here for close to 3 years now but at 74 it's a long slow learning road.

 

[rank]

What about making/playing music? All kids should have that opportunity, it is great for development both mental & physical.

Have three daughters (the first 2 are now well over 35 and come from 2 different relationships), no interest in music or any art (including literature), raised by their mothers, big fans of culture. So... Then I calmed down, one girl who reached 30 this year, a boy of 28, same mother who raised them both, same.
Sorry.
I must say. My second daughter came to see me in concert at a festival (I sang) with her boyfriend but I think it was me they came to see, not the band or anyone else (but they were very polite to everyone). But a good effort (because they are from a social background much higher than mine, like my three other children). They're really nice people, I think so. I'm lucky for that.

 

[Vacceo]

Have three daughters (the first 2 are now well over 35 and come from 2 different relationships), no interest in music or any art (including literature), raised by their mothers, big fans of culture. So... Then I calmed down, one girl who reached 30 this year, a boy of 28, same mother who raised them both, same.
Sorry.
I must say. My second daughter came to see me in concert at a festival (I sang) with her boyfriend but I think it was me they came to see, not the band or anyone else (but they were very polite to everyone). But a good effort (because they are from a social background much higher than mine, like my three other children). They're really nice people, I think so. I'm lucky for that.

In this time and age, unless we are talking third world or very degraded environments, access to culture has very little to do with class.

I mean; I'm nobody, son of nobody and I could easily read philosophy, listen to music or watch art (if only in photographs) for basically next to nothing.

I understand education plays an important role, but still...

 

[rank]

In this time and age, unless we are talking third world or very degraded environments, access to culture has very little to do with class.

I mean; I'm nobody, son of nobody and I could easily read philosophy, listen to music or watch art (if only in photographs) for basically next to nothing.

I understand education plays an important role, but still...

My son is into Physics, Maths and computers, he has no time for anything else except sometimes he read about History (especially America and Roman Empire). My 2 first daughters are into laws and trade. The third doesn't work. So you're more than half right, they choose it.

 

[Multicore]

This one.

Sexy-looking people and images have been used to sell pop music for a long, long time, and not just pop music, as it happens. So this image says rather little to me. What am I missing that "says everything"?

 

[Blake Klondike]

or first two liz phair records

also just recently discovered Adrian Lenker/ Big Thief. Exceptional writing for current generation. Musicianship is semi-weak and sound quality is poor-- I think they record at home. But the writing really is good.

 

[Blake Klondike]

Garth's fans probably do too. Probably biggest factor is what they see?

Buzzo from Melvins was a friend of Kurt Cobain and I heard him say "If Kurt had looked like Fat Albert, nobody would have given him a second thought." I think that's true of TS as well-- it definitely doesn't hurt her career that she is conventionally attractive. Would people be able to see themselves in her narcissistic fantasies if she looked like John Matuszak?

 

[Vacceo]

My son is into Physics, Maths and computers, he has no time for anything else except sometimes he read about History (especially America and Roman Empire). My 2 first daughters are into laws and trade. The third doesn't work. So you're more than half right, they choose it.

It's their choice, nothing wrong with it. The point is that they can read Hegel if they want to; not that long ago it was not that easy.