olieb
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I guess OP is deliberately fuzzy to stir up the pot. Nothing deep here.So you can't define it?
I guess OP is deliberately fuzzy to stir up the pot. Nothing deep here.So you can't define it?
The OP never made a single coherent post... At this point, I'm not even sure it's deliberate anymore.I guess OP is deliberately fuzzy to stir up the pot. Nothing deep here.
Haha, good point. I did not check any of his posts before.The OP never made a single coherent post... At this point, I'm not even sure it's deliberate anymore.
All speakers with flat sound differ in how they sound in a room due to their varying directivity; in other words, the reflections they produce in a room have different sound profiles. Aside from this, since the 1960s, participants in all blind tests have preferred flat on-axis sound over any other sound profile. However, as mentioned earlier, on-axis sound is not the only factor determining how speakers sound. There isn't once instance of blind testing experiment where the conclusion wasn't favoring flat on-axis sound.seems like everyone doesn’t like flat sound
I actually prefer a flat response. I have a button on my integrated amp. that allows me to run it direct for a perfectly flat frequency response.
I don’t believe that is true what I do believe to be true is all speakers with flat response sounds identical the reason the speakers sound different from each other is the sound isn’t flatAll speakers with flat sound differ in how they sound in a room due to their varying directivity; in other words, the reflections they produce in a room have different sound profiles. Aside from this, since the 1960s, participants in all blind tests have preferred flat on-axis sound over any other sound profile. However, as mentioned earlier, on-axis sound is not the only factor determining how speakers sound. There isn't once instance of blind testing experiment where the conclusion wasn't favoring flat on-axis sound.
I don’t believe the room effects the speaker sound my room is very small with an quietkat bike in the center of my room that doesn’t effect my speakers at allThat button makes your amplifier produce a flat response. That is not necessarily (and not likely) to be what you actually hear at the listening spot. The way speakers interact with rooms typically results in a gently downwards slope (less energy in the treble than in the bass).
I have no idea what the OP is referring to or means here, but I have met very few people who prefer flat (no slope) response in the listening position. This is debated in countless threads here already, and Erin in the video posted in this thread also explains it well.
Nope, the room (any room) acts like a filter, absorbing (carpet, furniture, curtains, etc.) and reflecting (walls) at various frequencies. Smaller the rooms tend to make resonances higher in frequency and closer to the ceiling height’s resonance frequency, which can concentrate the peaks and nulls in a narrower band.I don’t believe the room effects the speaker sound my room is very small with an quietkat bike in the center of my room that doesn’t effect my speakers at all
It does. If you were blindfolded you could tell if you are in a small or large room, and you could know something about the acoustics (hard or soft surfaces, etc.) just by having a conversation in the room (without considering speakers).I don’t believe the room effects the speaker sound my room is very small
This is not correct, and primarily so because you're not considering differences in sound dispersion - which many of the people contributing in this thread tried to explain. A loudspeaker radiates sound in all directions, not just on-axis, and its response is never "flat" in every direction. Even speakers that are 'flat' on-axis aren't always smooth off-axis (but good ones are).I don’t believe that is true what I do believe to be true is all speakers with flat response sounds identical the reason the speakers sound different from each other is the sound isn’t flat
This is also not correct, and trivial to demonstrate.I don’t believe the room effects the speaker sound
The concept or philosophy of "high fidelity" is to faithfully (accurately) reproduce the recording as-intended. You should hear what the producers & engineers were hearing. That mostly means flat frequency response, low noise, and low distortion, and no "unusual" room reverb/reflections.seems like everyone doesn’t like flat sound
The concept or philosophy of "high fidelity" is to faithfully (accurately) reproduce the recording as-intended. You should hear what the producers & engineers were hearing.
It is a bit confusing, especially since we don't really mean "flat"It's confusing. I don't know what "flat" sound means. I have read that it is the sound produced by setting a preamp/receiver's bass and treble knobs at the 12o'clock position. I've also noticed that a lot of software equalizers have a"flat" preset so one can increase or decrease db levels at various frequencies, but where do you set your tone controls on your preamp/receiver in that case.
It's confusing. I don't know what "flat" sound means. I have read that it is the sound produced by setting a preamp/receiver's bass and treble knobs at the 12o'clock position. I've also noticed that a lot of software equalizers have a"flat" preset so one can increase or decrease db levels at various frequencies, but where do you set your tone controls on your preamp/receiver in that case.