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Devialet Phantom I and II measurements

pierre

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Analysis of the Devialet Phantom I & II measurements​

The Devialet Phantom speakers are small but powerful, with a unique design and excellent bass. They are expensive, but their sound quality is top-notch.

I ordered a pair of Phantom speakers a few years ago (the large model in 2017). The sound was amazing, but I had some problems with the software and the linking box. The box would often disconnect the speakers, and the software was buggy. I hope these issues have been fixed since then.

The latency was also relatively high by default, but there was a way to reduce it. Ultimately, I decided to return the speakers because of the software and connectivity issues.

Recently I noticed that Devialet released a set of measurements for both speakers and wanted to look at them and compare with quasi anechoic measurements done by napilopez.

I used the data to generate the spinorama and derive some information.

Here is the marketing blurb from Devialet for the Phantom I:

Phantom I 103 dB, the ultimate connected speaker with its Remote. Hear every detail brought to life with unthinkable clarity and precision by a Grade I Titanium tweeter. Surrender to indecent power and ultra-deep bass. Sound in its purest and most essential form. No apologies.
and for the Phantom II:

Ultra compact. By stretching size and performance beyond reasonable limits, Devialet engineers have brought to life Phantom II: the only ultra-compact home sound system capable of delivering high fidelity and physical impact, whatever the volume.
One implosive sound. Unreasonably compact for a system this powerful, Phantom II fits in almost anywhere. Made for compulsive listening experiences, the easy-to-transport Phantom features every available Devialet technology in under 3 liters.
They definitely have great marketing, let’s see if the measurements back it off.

They look sleek: Phantom I is the big brother:
Relative size


Phantom I​

Performance​

Harmann/ Olive scores:

SpeakerScorew/sub
Phantom I (reference)5.76.3
Phantom I (eq lw)6.27.0
Phantom I (eq score)6.87.6

This is good and at least part of the marketing is correct. For the maximum output, it is advertised for 103dB (this model, they have more powerful ones) but they do not tell at which frequency and if that’s peak or continuous, I would guess peak. The data from the GLL file are not helping to answer this.

Anechoic measurements​

Let’s start with the standard CEA2034 graph:
spinorama


Things are awesome below 2kHz with a flat response and an incredible 22Hz for -3dB point. Then we have a directivity error AND a significant drop (3dB) on all curves that should be audible.

On Axis


Looking at the dispersion, the normalized horizontals shows the same thing: excellent below 1kHz, great below 4k and then messy.

We have a good horizontal and vertical patterns, the round head and the coaxial design are going good:
horizontal SPL normalized
vertical SPL normalized


The horizontal and vertical contours shows the beaming and the weakness where the directivity changes:
horizontal contour
[IMG alt="vertical
contour"]https://www.spinorama.org/speakers/...vialet/vendor/SPL Vertical Contour.webp[/IMG]

Due to the beaming you will need to have your listening position in a 35° cone in order to have smooth treble.

More graphs are available on spinorama.org.

With an EQ​

Let’s flatten the listening window first.​

As expected the first eq linearize the listening window which is post EQ in the ±3dB band. A possibly unwelcome is that now the PIR does not go down enough and the speaker may be bright(er).

The histograms show nice improvements on all curves. Note that for each curve, we have two histograms: one is full range and the other focus on the midrange. To understand if the EQ is having a positive impact, look at the EQ (orange) bars, they must be higher than the blue (reference) ones.
EQ LW


The following EQ will cost you 5dB of headroom:

Code:
EQ for Devialet Phantom I computed from Vendors-Devialet data
Preference Score 5.72 with EQ 6.18
Generated from http://github.com/pierreaubert/spinorama/generate_peqs.py v0.24
Dated: 2023-09-10-13:30:29

Preamp: -5.5 dB

Filter  1: ON PK Fc    22 Hz Gain +3.28 dB Q 5.22
Filter  2: ON PK Fc    76 Hz Gain -0.68 dB Q 2.43
Filter  3: ON PK Fc   109 Hz Gain +1.29 dB Q 2.02
Filter  4: ON PK Fc   447 Hz Gain -0.52 dB Q 0.57
Filter  5: ON PK Fc  1103 Hz Gain +1.54 dB Q 3.17
Filter  6: ON PK Fc  2813 Hz Gain +4.91 dB Q 5.01
Filter  7: ON PK Fc  3676 Hz Gain +3.76 dB Q 4.22

Let’s flatten the predicted in-room response / score:​

EQ Score


Code:
EQ for Devialet Phantom I computed from Vendors-Devialet data
Preference Score 5.72 with EQ 6.78
Generated from http://github.com/pierreaubert/spinorama/generate_peqs.py v0.24
Dated: 2023-09-10-13:36:59

Preamp: -4.5 dB

Filter  1: ON LS Fc    22 Hz Gain +4.16 dB Q 0.52
Filter  2: ON PK Fc    68 Hz Gain -0.57 dB Q 0.47
Filter  3: ON PK Fc   109 Hz Gain +1.64 dB Q 2.31
Filter  4: ON PK Fc  1141 Hz Gain +1.53 dB Q 3.21
Filter  5: ON PK Fc  2721 Hz Gain +4.33 dB Q 5.90
Filter  6: ON PK Fc  3676 Hz Gain +2.09 dB Q 4.87
Filter  7: ON PK Fc 12246 Hz Gain -1.62 dB Q 0.95

EQ’s side by side​

The 2 EQs are marginally different: they are trying to flatten the LW. Since the speaker is beaming a lot above 8kHz, the optimizer tries to compensate and give away some flatness on the LW to optimize for a flat PIR.

EQ Score


This EQ is able to optimise the score significantly:

Radar


Phantom II​

Let’s now have a look at the smaller one.

Performance​

Harmann/ Olive scores:

SpeakerScorew/sub
Phantom II (reference)7.08.1
Phantom II (eq)7.38.3

This is excellent! For the maximum output, it is advertised for 95dB (this model, they have more powerful ones) but they do not tell at which frequency and if that’s peak or continuous. The data from the GLL file are not helping to answer this. That’s not a lot and it means they are perfect for near field listening or maybe mid-field aka 1 meter to 2.5 meter.

Anechoic measurements​

Let’s start with the standard CEA2034 graph:
spinorama


Things are awesome below 1kHz with a flat response and then they is a small (2dB) deep that should be audible. Top end is bright. The On Axis is very good, good enough to be a studio monitor with some light corrections. The directivity doesn't have significant error.

On Axis


Looking at the dispersion, the normalized horizontals shows the same thing: excellent below 1kHz, great below 4k and then messy.

We have a good horizontal and vertical patterns, the round head and the coaxial design are going good:
horizontal SPL normalized
vertical SPL normalized


The horizontal and vertical contours shows the beaming and the weakness where the directivity changes:
horizontal contour
[IMG alt="vertical
contour"]https://www.spinorama.org/speakers/...vialet/vendor/SPL Vertical Contour.webp[/IMG]

If you look closely at the contrours, it is possible that the measurements are swapped out.

Due to the beaming you will need to have your listening position in a ±35° cone in order to have smooth treble.

More graphs are available on spinorama.org.

With an EQ​

Since the Listening Window is already very good, let’s focus on the Predicted In-Room Response:

Let’s flatten the predicted in-room response / score:​

Now that’s awesome:
EQ Score

Code:
EQ for Devialet Phantom II computed from Vendors-Devialet data
Preference Score 7.06 with EQ 7.35
Generated from http://github.com/pierreaubert/spinorama/generate_peqs.py v0.24
Dated: 2023-09-10-14:03:17

Preamp: -2.5 dB
 
Filter  1: ON LS Fc    30 Hz Gain +2.87 dB Q 0.90
Filter  2: ON PK Fc    62 Hz Gain -0.66 dB Q 3.73
Filter  3: ON PK Fc    76 Hz Gain -1.28 dB Q 2.17
Filter  4: ON PK Fc   342 Hz Gain -0.71 dB Q 0.41
Filter  5: ON PK Fc  1220 Hz Gain +0.32 dB Q 4.56
Filter  6: ON PK Fc  1594 Hz Gain +2.18 dB Q 2.37
Filter  7: ON PK Fc  7669 Hz Gain +1.88 dB Q 0.37

Comparison with quasi anechoic measurement​

As often, we see a very good concordance between the two methodologies:
comparison


Comparison between Phantom I and Phantom II​

Phantom II is significantly flatter than the I. They both have relative minor issues in the 1kHz to 6kHz range. It is likely audible on the I and difficult to hear on the II.

comparison


Conclusion​

Harmann/ Olive scores:

SpeakerScorew/sub
Phantom I (reference)5.76.5
Phantom I (eq lw)6.27.0
Phantom I (eq score)6.87.6
Phantom II (reference)7.08.1
Phantom II (eq)7.38.3
Max output is around 104dB for Phantom I and 95dB for Phantom II.

The Devialet Phantom speakers are a mixed bag with a hint of greatness. Objectively, they are very good speakers, with impressive output and bass. However, some people may find the top end to be too harsh and the dip in the frequency response may be audible on the Phantom I. A digital signal processor (DSP) can be used to tame the top end.

The Phantom II looks excellent without EQ and awesome with it. For comparison, that’s the same level of quality as a KEF R5.

It is limited in terms of output but it would be perfect for use on a desk. It can almost compete with the best in class high-end studio monitors like the Genelec 8341 or Neumann KH120 II.

The Phantom speakers are not cheap, but they are unique and stylish speakers that may be easier to integrate into modern design houses.
 

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I had the original Silvers. I agree with the overall assessment. They did sound good and they looked the part, not to mention it was made in France! The problem was the software and occasionally getting stuck at 0 dBFS which led me to sell the speakers.
 

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I could never get good stereo imaging with them (which as it turns out is one of my biggest preferences). I still have one of them - makes for an amazing outdoor speaker for garden parties
 
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