@John B This sounded fabulous! Would you mind sharing your REW measurement files, since I don't have anything other than Umik-1 for my speakers? Thanks!
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Dan Clark Stealth Review (State of the Art Headphone)
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Sure, I'll see if I still have them. Stay tuned. Pretty sure these are the right ones.@John B This sounded fabulous! Would you mind sharing your REW measurement files, since I don't have anything other than Umik-1 for my speakers? Thanks!
Stealth REW JB - Google Drive
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Thanks a lot! I'll play around with them a bit later onSure, I'll see if I still have them. Stay tuned. Pretty sure these are the right ones.
Stealth REW JB - Google Drive
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Law of diminishing returns…As a total noob i find this audiophilia World terribly amusing and fascinating:
Page 1: Stealth measures and sound amazing. An example for other brands.
Page 85: the 150€ Beyer Plastic 880 sounds waaaaay better than the Stealth
The price of the stealth and other TOTLs is 90% marketing . Beyer has plastic cups, Stealth has carbon fibre and LCD5 has magnesium cups. Doesn’t make any difference to the sound quality.
I’m sure many people prefer the 880. With EQ the difference between totls and respectable studio monitor headphones is small
Yeah... You're probably right. I would never spend that amount of money on a Headphone.
Still, Carbon and Magnesium are more expensive than Plastic... Although not so much more that it would reflect a 4000$ price Tag
The Beyer are well build, and you can repair them if you need to. Was referring only to the sound quality out of box
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Innerfidelity's measurements show basically identical distortion between the 32, 250, and 600Ω DT880:
https://www.stereophile.com/content/innerfidelity-headphone-measurements
Thanks, I was looking for the link.
You see the 32 Ohm version crossing into 1% THD at 60 Hz, whereas the 600 Ohm version crosses into 1% THD at 100 Hz.
As a total noob i find this audiophilia World terribly amusing and fascinating:
Page 1: Stealth measures and sound amazing. An example for other brands.
Page 85: the 150€ Beyer Plastic 880 sounds waaaaay better than the Stealth
I don't think you can really take people seriously when they say stuff like that, they're totally different headphones and the vast majority of people are going to be finding the Stealth sounding better than the Beyer 880:
Beyer 880:
Stealth:
Whilst the Stealth would have vastly lower distortion too.
There's a pretty good chance that the vast majority of people are going to experience the Stealth in different ways though, while the DT880 should be able to have lower variation across individuals
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Ohh, yes that'd be interesting. I'm sure Abyss were just about to send those too. Amazing thank you, going to try posting them on there. Recovering anything helps than just letting them sit around. @amirm on a second thought, would you be interested in reviewing any of the following? -...
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DT880 is a set that tends to get brough up in lengthy TOTL discussions at least one or two times. It's not Beyerdynamics most popular model or some new, hyped up set. You could say this speaks to it having a subjective track record. It costs 1/23rd of a Stealth. I think you can be an objectivist and still recommend DT880. Value is an objective, subjective tone is an objective. OTOH I've dismissed a newer set based on graph performance myself, because of a deviation too close to pinna, and oratory1990 confirmed it was audible, but a few people that have a OTT objectivist self-image simp heavily for it. I'll not say which headphone because I expect it will generate too much OT and emotions.
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I did read through your linked posts quite quickly, but I think it's a bit of a stretch to assume that's the Stealth being measured. But you are right that closed back headphones tend to have more variation on peoples heads than open backs, and I suppose semi-opens like the DT880. I'm certainly not ready to concede that the DT880 is a better headphone than The Stealth - I certainly don't take that view, no siree.There's a pretty good chance that the vast majority of people are going to experience the Stealth in different ways though, while the DT880 should be able to have lower variation across individuals
For some of the individuals above it's entirely reasonable that the DT880 would sound better, warts and all.Please delete/close
Ohh, yes that'd be interesting. I'm sure Abyss were just about to send those too. Amazing thank you, going to try posting them on there. Recovering anything helps than just letting them sit around. @amirm on a second thought, would you be interested in reviewing any of the following? -...
No need to be dramatic, (at least you're not being irrelevant this time), I'm not dismissing it. It's certainly something to bare in mind when you're buying a headphone or if you were to buy the Stealth or any other closed back headphone and find that it doesn't sound as you expect (from the measurements).
That's a very good point. Both sample variation and coupling issues are a blind spot in current reviews that jump straight to the "do these headphones adhere to X target" point without knowing first and foremost whether they actually can reliably deliver it.
It is ! But it's a semi-educated stretch.
Neither do I, but neither would I be surprised if an individual in particular preferred a sample of the DT880 over the Stealth. They're both probably problematic one way or another.
It's very likely based on the graphs, their source and time frame.
But the FR variability of closed backs is a known fact. For that reason it would come of as unknowledgeable to focus on an averaged FR measurement in this contect. It would be like ignoring off-axis FR for speakers, and being stubborn while doing it.
Keep in mind few offer first party replacement pads for the variability to be measured in the first place, so singling out DT880 might be incorrect.
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