Of course there is - EQ.There’s nothing left to improve upon really in the digital audio segment
They started with 4 bands at fixed frequencies, in Mojo 2.
Not rocket science to see this will expand in future.
Of course there is - EQ.There’s nothing left to improve upon really in the digital audio segment
As the lightning port lived on. you have to cater your long term users to increase trust in the brand. primarily the profit margins are higher if you can design something that outperforms the competition with minimal expenses in re-tooling ensuring long term profit without a hit to the consumer base. sure they have overspend on the single block aluminium. ( could use a better font on the label), they could have added charging functionality to the Type C port which is so damn irritating but the DAC simply is so good i can eek out an amazing experience with RB42's from my mac and i can still lug it around with hiby r3 pro atttached to it as a bluetooth receiver for my phone's spotify or plexamp.I agree that this is an unacceptable choice, at any price point. However this is a manufacturer that still lists their going-on nine year old “DAVE” as their flagship digital product at $14,000, which was an unconscionable price when it launched, let alone eight years on. Eight years is comparable to eons in digital technology, and just the GUI display alone is laughably dated.
Chord is a triumph in marketing and in creating the mythic personality cult of Rob Watts—plus some very savvy cozying up with the stalwart corporate-funded reviewers. Same with Paul McGowan at PS Audio. Instead of maintaining their technology with the SOTA, they come up with new ideas in pseudoscience to keep their aging technology au courant. And folks keep on buying it nonetheless…
Considering the absurd cost of the Poly, it's baffling that they haven't done that obvious thing.If they had taken my suggestion, there would not be a need for a Mojo3. A revised Poly 3 (2?) would just click on directly.
The adaptor, would have afforded them backward compatibility with existing Polys, till they release a new one.
Really? Just how many mm would it add?Yes but you are not seeing it is a clunky suggestion. It makes an already long combo longer.
It is a good engineering solution but not one for the public.
Anyway they are probably selling tens of thousands of Mojo2, which will wash out the 100 or so people complaining online about microUSB.
Considering the absurd cost of the Poly, it's baffling that they haven't done that obvious thing.
As I said, the will was not there.The Mojo/Poly is already a heavy combo held together by two Micro USB, optical and small jack ports. While a clever idea, I don’t think a thin coupler like this between them would work in practice.
Maybe, but aren't there 2 locating pins/lugs holding them together?The Mojo/Poly is already a heavy combo held together by two Micro USB, optical and small jack ports. While a clever idea, I don’t think a thin coupler like this between them would work in practice.
No there isn't, but should've been.Maybe, but aren't there 2 locating pins/lugs holding them together?
I haven't seen one in person. What am I seeing here <https://www.avforums.com/reviews/chord-electronics-poly-review.14138/>?No there isn't, but should've been.
@Chester is correct about the flimsy assembly. Poly snaps to Mojo by means of:I haven't seen one in person. What am I seeing here <https://www.avforums.com/reviews/chord-electronics-poly-review.14138/>?
Thanks. I had no idea that it is so poor. Not what one expects for such expensive items.@Chester is correct about the flimsy assembly. Poly snaps to Mojo by means of:
- a shaft that inserts to coax input
- another that inserts to optical socket
- two USB plugs that would insert too.
But over all, it can snap off damaging both Poly and Mojo, hence the need for a sleeve of a case.
On a 2Go for Hugo2, there are two metal lugs that screw into Hugo2 and 2Go would snap-on to the lugs.
several mm too many - tis already a long and heavy comboReally? Just how many mm would it add?
OK. It's apparent that the Poly is not only hugely overpriced but also badly designed. It should attach to the Mojo with something similar to how vertical grips attach to cameras. If you don't know what that is, try this example <https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras-vertical-grips/vg-c4em>.several mm too many - tis already a long and heavy combo
Neat job!Few years ago, I modded an Xduoo BT receiver to click on a Mojo.
Worked very well, because it had LDAC.
It was only £58 at the time, I could even take a phone call.
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If they’re going to offer an EQ feature at these price points, why haven’t they employed more than a four band EQ to date? I use Roon as my PEQ solution so this really isn’t important to me—but I’m able to achieve everything the Mojo does with better numbers on the bench with a Topping DAC/Amp combo or an RME with higher clean headroom and up to date connectors—where is all the money going in these Chord products? Where is the $14,000 in the DAVE?Of course there is - EQ.
They started with 4 bands at fixed frequencies, in Mojo 2.
Not rocket science to see this will expand in future.
And when you are on a plane or a train ? ?If they’re going to offer an EQ feature at these price points, why haven’t they employed more than a four band EQ to date? I use Roon as my PEQ solution so this really isn’t important to me—but I’m able to achieve everything the Mojo does with better numbers on the bench with a Topping DAC/Amp combo or an RME with higher clean headroom and up to date connectors—where is all the money going in these Chord products? Where is the $14,000 in the DAVE?
The DAC is nice and compact and performs perfectly adequately on the bench. I see why you and others like it. You can get even better “performance” (albeit inaudible—all of this is inaudible) for a lot less, with SOTA connectors and digital components. It just requires acquiescence to non-“Blue Chip” brands, which it took me awhile to adjust to. It’s very hard to get past conflating cost with quality. This site helped me get there, and I couldn’t be happier. That’s all that matters, no matter what your gear costs, and I do acknowledge that there are other factors besides sound quality that inform individual preferences.As the lightning port lived on. you have to cater your long term users to increase trust in the brand. primarily the profit margins are higher if you can design something that outperforms the competition with minimal expenses in re-tooling ensuring long term profit without a hit to the consumer base. sure they have overspend on the single block aluminium. ( could use a better font on the label), they could have added charging functionality to the Type C port which is so damn irritating but the DAC simply is so good i can eek out an amazing experience with RB42's from my mac and i can still lug it around with hiby r3 pro atttached to it as a bluetooth receiver for my phone's spotify or plexamp.
I’m not judging. I posted just now that I can see why some folks like the Mojo. I’m really only taking exception to Chord’s price points. I personally use an iFi xDSD Gryphon for my portable which is $100 less in price and offers more flexibility with inputs and outputs, but I’m sure there are plenty of folks who could find faults with it—iFi has not been reviewed kindly on this site but I didn’t feel compelled to defend my choices. I’m just responding to one person’s post who called out the Mojo 2’s old school ports and their incompatibility with modern phones.And when you are on a plane or a train ? ?
Please compare like with like. And what suits me or you, is personal. Can not judge a product on personal preferences. If it doesn't suit you, you won't buy, but it doesn't mean it doesn't suit anyone.
I like Mojo, so do many people. Amir was just praise for the device, deservedly. OK I accept the Poly is way too expensive for its niche limited use category. It would have been better with USB-C and other little nag worthy points.
But overall, Mojo has been an excellent device, lets be fair.