Best 'Bang for your buck' IEM - Poll

[GaryH]

Drag the bottom or top edge of the grab handles on the left on the y-axis.

 

[TK750]

Drag the bottom or top edge of the grab handles on the left on the y-axis.

Ahh thank you, I thought I had tried that but obviously not!

 

[Chromatischism]

No they didn't.
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Yup, they did. Cuts in the same trouble/treble areas. I can't verify your chart though. You didn't include the stock Zero.

 

[GaryH]

Yup, they did. Cuts in the same trouble/treble areas.

Cutting the treble is not 'basically the same thing', when the magnitude of the cut differs substantially. As you don't seem to understand how frequency response works, I'll make this nice and clear for you. Here's just the difference between your EQ applied to the original Zero and the Zero Red's stock response:

As seen here, your EQ on the Zero has a huge up to 3-4 dB less energy then the Red over a broadband (more audible) range in the upper-mids to mid-treble where our hearing is most sensitive, resulting in an extremely dull, muffled sound (even more than the Red), which is exactly what I heard when I tried your bizarre EQ on my Zeros.

I can't verify your chart though.

Yes you can, using Crinacle's graph tool with your EQ applied to the Zero measurement, just as I did. It's pretty obvious, but if you can't work out how I can explain it for you.

 

[AdamG]

Cutting the treble is not 'basically the same thing', when the magnitude of the cut differs substantially. As you don't seem to understand how frequency response works, I'll make this nice and clear for you. Here's just the difference between your EQ applied to the original Zero and the Zero Red's stock response:
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As seen here, your EQ on the Zero has a huge up to 3-4 dB less energy then the Red over a broadband (more audible) range in the upper-mids to mid-treble where our hearing is most sensitive, resulting in an extremely dull, muffled sound (even more than the Red), which is exactly what I heard when I tried your bizarre EQ on my Zeros.

Yes you can, using Crinacle's graph tool with your EQ applied to the Zero measurement, just as I did. It's pretty obvious, but if you can't work out how I can explain it for you.

Why all the “harshness” in your reply? I understand that you are trying to help and we commend that activity. However, a glass of sour milk, is bitter and difficult to swallow.

 

[GaryH]

Context:

I don't think you understand how frequency response works.

 

[AdamG]

I'll make this nice and clear for you.

It's pretty obvious, but if you can't work out how I can explain it for you.

Context! You are basically insinuating that he is too dumb/dense to figure out what is so obviously simple for you. Passive aggressiveness. Giving advice doesn’t have to be delivered in a manner that makes others look or feel stupid. This is a fellow Member whom has been here longer than you. So dial back the snark. Not asking anymore.

 

[Fregly]

Once I found tips that sealed at the right depth the Hexa turned out to be a winner for me.

 

[Jimbob54]

Once I found tips that sealed at the right depth the Hexa turned out to be a winner for me.

Which tips just out of interest?

 

[Fregly]

Which tips just out of interest?

Spinfit w1. The foamies that came with the Hexa were pretty good, just a bit small. I have ordered some Symbio foams and their hybrids W tips as well. The original Ws were too stiff in the past when I tried them and uncomfortable; the formula has changed so we'Il see. I liked the concept of that design.

 

[totti1965]

The Truthear Zero (or the Red) is a solid bet from a sound perspective BUT its very hard to wear/ find the right tips for a lot of people. The best description I saw was by another user on here who described it as "hangs by the tip" which is not a great proposition for an on the go/ mobile set. Nothing worse than having to fiddle with something in your ear constantly.

Of course, others dont seem to have this problem so YMMV if you pick these .

Ha Ha Ha, After one hour or so of fddling after I got them (my first IEM!) - I have learned that I just must use the medium Tips with the smaller holes!
My head is very large - So I suggest everyone to start with small holes and small Tips! Should be allright for most people (even for Amir).

 

[tknx]

Hexa

 

[alumnicesar]

Haven't heard any of these but it has to be the 7hz Salnotes Zero

 

[markanini]

Haven't heard any of these but it has to be the 7hz Salnotes Zero

What sets have you heard?

 

[alumnicesar]

What sets have you heard?

aside from beats fit pro, apple airpods pro, and kz zst, basically nothing.
I do have the Razer Blackshark v2 eq'd to the (rtings) Harman OE curve thanks to autoeq

I also sometimes use it with a 7db 20hz - 150 hz bass boost. 200hz is set to 0. But that's mostly for curiosity even though it sounds better to me

 

[Alexium]

The Truthear Zero (or the Red) is a solid bet from a sound perspective BUT its very hard to wear/ find the right tips for a lot of people.

Not for me. Super comfortable and easy to use.

 

[Sebby]

Under €100 I found the Final E3000 very good. Very comfortable, light and relaxing.
I also find the HIFIMAN RE800s excellent which yes, when it was released it cost €600, now it is under €100 without problems and I prefer it to IEMs under €1000 (hey Meze Advar!)

 

[totti1965]

Not for me. Super comfortable and easy to use.

Crinacle recommended starting with the small holes. For most people the small holes and medium size or small holes and small size fits perfect.

 

[Veri]

..please no sexual innuendo jokes

 

[totti1965]

..please no sexual innuendo jokes

Oh, it was absolutely not intentional! I am from Germany and my English is not perfect… now I see what I have done…. Ha ha. But Joke aside. Perhaps my humor is not good enough… so I don‘t really can say if your answer was humorious to. Also joke aside: There is a YouTube video where a YouTube guy tested the REDs and sayed that Crinacle suggested the tips with the small wholes. It was also that with what @amirm has made his measurements: Medium Tips (or is it called taps?) with small holes……