Both speakers have a slight dip around the 2k-3k range. Then the S comes back to flatline while the R continues with a very slight downward trend. (Regardless, this is as perfect as you can get with passive speakers.) Heavenly father, I even posted a screenshot from spinorama with on-axis overlayed of both speakers on top of each other.
Theres a reason why you were willing to let it go, because you saw the graph and realized the highs were more extended on S and felt like you were wrong. It was such a powerful concept to you that you felt you had to prove yourself with objectivity. I suspect the reason you felt you had to do so (could be wrong, who knows?) was because your first comment was more about your justification of your purchase than anything else. Why would I jump to such conclusions? Because it was the standard crap I see from people whenever they see something a tier lower than what they bought being discussed.
For whatever reason, people find joy in telling others discussing things that cost half as much as what they have stuff like "you may as well double it!" Notice, as soon as I told you the same thing you were hit by it so hard you had to have the logic recapitulated. Then you explained how you were on the fence to spend the amount that you did, so obviously, its not a bright idea to show up in a thread and tell someone that crap, or else you mighta been able to follow your own logic when it was explained back to you and saved yourself a lot of time.
Of course I realize they are both exceptional speakers, but as I stated, I have a terrible time with higher frequencies. Maybe I shouldnt have trusted Ron to begin with. I havent done so much before, and yes, I knew when I saw his' video he was not the most objective reference I could trust. I have issues with Ron and his channel for other reasons than objectivity, though. I really dont like his long winded analogies on audio performance. Something about the way he states his' ideas irks me like nails across a chalk board, and I think its because I can catch his' drift before the half way mark on the point he is making, then he drawls about like hes reviewing a special edition cigar or stout beer with the poetic flare of a nitwit. I have no problem admitting that there may be some jealousy there, as well, the idea he's getting some of the best gear being made over those long winded analogies might cause some pathological response in me, who knows?
However, I do really have a hard time with higher frequencies to the point I am considering EQing the R's because as I use them more I am noting I dont get quite to the volume level I would like without things feeling shouty in my canals. This may seem really odd to read considering how fantastic they are, but to me I have noted some problems getting to the volume I like on some very well recorded albums from extremely well engineered and mastered cuts that are all but flawless in their capture techniques. The other end of the graph is where I really should have focused. Better bass response would probably do me a lot more of a favor than the minimal amount of differences in the highs. I will know for sure if I get the S version, which I see no reason why I wont eventually. Had the other pair that I mentioned been within a day of driving I would have probably gotten them and even discussed the idea and got the okay on freighting them from the missus. The value changed significantly with freight factored so the next best thing became a target as they were in fact close enough to get with a day of driving.
Speaking of value, I consider it a lot as a concept as it does in fact define every individual's reality. What is something worth without a reference? Who knows. Its like trying to figure out your own moral standards while every interaction with your morality being done in a vacuum. We order value individually all the time with every consumption we perform. This happens even when we do nothing but sit under a bridge humming songs as one starves to death. In their case life has no value and they deal with their perception of its value. Currently capital is the grand unifier of value, and in our society people come up with ideas and incorporate them and do everything they can to compete and defend those ideas so they can set the value. Supposedly these values are referenced to what else is in the market place, but we see now after the largest transfer of wealth in human history (taking place over Covid 19) and the biggest consolidation of state and economic power in human history, that the monopolies are so large that they can just ramp profiteering to levels that exceed those of the last half century and hide it behind "inflation." Not only do we note these massive shifts in power to be real, but they are also irreversible. We will never go back to the lower centralized point we were at pre-Covid. You seem to order value well, seeing how you bought the S pair, but do not like fancy watches. This indicates to me that we have a more similar manner of ordering value than someone that only likes fancy watches and doesn't care for audio gear at all. Recognizing this commonality between us leads me to suggest exploring Baudrillard and Debord's critical theory writing as it really fascinates me. You may find use of some of these complex illustrations of meaning and value and how it affects the individual in the autonomous Spectical/Simulation that we can not escape from.
I would hope you consider the idea that if you truly want to express a value to someone else, perhaps be more Socratic in nature and simply ask them if they have considered the value of something that you yourself have recently purchased rather than simply state 'if it was my choice, I would do this." No one wants to hear that, and not to be remedial but it literally dumbfounded you when it fed back your way. There's little room for these sort of competitive discussions to unfold if you simply ask someone if they have considered something versus you trying to direct them to the decision that you made.
The insurance idea wasn't just about audio, but also about other things as well. If you make a very safe insured investment that has compounding interest that also allows one to borrow without interest on the loan, and if done right can lead to cash back and traveling perks, then I still think its a worthy thought even if it doesn't get enacted. You'd know better than anyone if you'd like to get cash back off your purchases done with no interest dealing with a constantly growing amount you pass on to someone you love. It may not be that great of an idea, no biggy if not. I do want to learn more about it, though, especially when considering flipping things bigger than audio, again, it may not stand up well then either, but investigating it isn't a crime, and if there is a chance that I can get a substantial enough perks when transacting property or auto flips then I would at least like to know. Funny the idea of considering a possibility seemed like such a radical idea to ya cause someone with a vested interest told you it wasn't. If you would like to flesh it out to prove to me how pointless such a thing would be, then be my guest and save me some time! I do, however fully recognize how tedious or uneconomical it may be.
We aren't so different after all, I would say. I enjoyed the back and forth and would love it if you would challenge the ideas presented, as I may learn more. I have no judgments, after all, I do realize that even though many times I figured that I was standing up for principles dealing with how I process the world that really it had more to do with me defending a decision cause I aint no punk either. (wink)
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