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Audyssey Manual Calibration “OCA’s REW + Audyssey Awesomeness”

I got the warning to inveret the sub. I have no invert option, but do have phase 0 to 180.

I assume setting this to 180 is a sufficient alternative?


EDIT - I don't know @OCA what it is you are doing, but it is incredible. The first version was an amazing step up from what I could do with the basic Audessey measurement, and trying to draw my own target on a tiny screen.

Unbelievably EVO feels like almost the same step up again.

I know, I know - I sound like the typical audiophool talking about veils being lifted over and over.... But here we are.
If it's just a "switch" then it's probably only switching polarity. If it's a dial knob with varying degrees of phase then don't use that one, it will intorduce extra delays unaccounted for. In these cases, it's better to run Evo with "no sub inversion" option ticked.
 
it's better to run Evo with "no sub inversion" option ticked.
Perfect, thanks (I'd missed those check boxes)
 
A1 Evo v3x is out:
Great tool, thanx a lot!

I have one question regarding the center channel - as I know, it is used as the reference point when measuring/calculating the distances (or delays) to the others channel speakers. But what if I have got no center channel - only FR and FL (aka 4.0.2)?
 
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Great tool, thanx a lot!

I have one question regarding the center channel - as I know, it is used as the reference point when measuring/calculating the distances (or delays) to the others channel speakers. But what if I have got no center channel - only FR and FL (aka 4.0.2)?
I don't have one either, Evo works with any combo except with systems with no subwoofer. PS It will take FL distance as reference.
 
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Measurements can indeed be taken remotely with the API but it requires REW pro upgrade.
That won't be a problem as a REW pro upgrade only costs $100, which is much less than MULTIEQ-X or Dirac Live full/DLBC. I'd definitely pay for a pro REW or a pro EVO and I'm sure many others would too...

REW Pro also provides multi-input mic capture such as MiniDSP UMIK-X. This, together with your coding skills could bring EVO to Trinnov's Room Optimizer level...
 
That won't be a problem as a REW pro upgrade only costs $100, which is much less than MULTIEQ-X or Dirac Live full/DLBC. I'd definitely pay for a pro REW or a pro EVO and I'm sure many others would too...

REW Pro also provides multi-input mic capture such as MiniDSP UMIK-X. This, together with your coding skills could bring EVO to Trinnov's Room Optimizer level...
It's going to be too niche for many but UMIK-X with REW Pro could mean proper HF correction, quite tough to achieve though... I had checked some recent papers on directional mic measuruments and using eigen vectors to simulate HF response. The math seemed extreme.
 
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I don't have one either, Evo works with any combo except with systems with no subwoofer. PS It will take FL distance as reference.
Is there any limitation for Evo regarding the different Audyssey versions (MultEQ, MultEQ XT, XT32, etc.) like number of PEQ filters for each channel?
 
Is there any limitation for Evo regarding the different Audyssey versions (MultEQ, MultEQ XT, XT32, etc.) like number of PEQ filters for each channel?
It works with all of them.
 
Use A1 evo v3 now with the new Rew 43 beta, sounds very good to me.
I have 7 smaller Thx speakers 73hz-6db with 2 subwoofers, the new v3 version is maybe better for big full range front speakers.
used A1 evo 2.3 two weeks or so, that was also very good.
I am new to A1 evo, 2.3 was my first use of it.
Its a nice program, and fun to use and listen to the new calibrations.
 
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Put me down as another fan of A1 Evo v3!!!

After an initial run told me to flip polarity on all subs and use LFE-Main and large fronts, I tried it out and wasn't a huge fan of the change.

Then I forced the small speaker option and no phase switching and redid the files. I used the 'master' file, and despite the app's advice to the contrary, I am still using Dynamic EQ with 0 ref value. I also use 'Light' Dynamic volume. Apart from that I used the Evo file settings verbatim with the exception of boosting the xover on my center to 100Hz, which I find helps with voice clarity (esp. male voices) on my setup.

After a good long listen last night, both gaming and watching shows with good sound, and doing A/B tests vs regular Audyssey with my presets, my verdict is in: A1 Evo makes an very noticeable improvement in the sound. Overall presentation is more enveloping, voices are clearer, bass is better integrated with sound overall, and the room somehow even sounds less echoey (it's mostly untreated and a bit of a echoey mess). My lady (who's not that much of a critical listener tbh) even heard the same thing when I A/B with a regular Audyssey preset, and agrees with me.

System: 5.2.4 (3 subs), Denon AVR-X4700H, 2xKlipsch SPL-150 on split sub channel 1, at front, inside main speakers position), 1xMonolith V12 V2 (rear left, sub channel 2), Energy RC-70, RC-LCR, RC-10, 4* in-ceiling speakers are Insignia.

Thank you so much for your hard work OCA, you are brilliant mate!
 
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Put me down as another fan of A1 Evo v3!!!

After an initial run told me to flip polarity on all subs and use LFE-Main and large fronts, I tried it out and wasn't a huge fan of the change.

Then I forced the small speaker option and no phase switching and redid the files. I used the 'master' file, and despite the app's advice to the contrary, I am still using Dynamic EQ with 0 ref value. I also use 'Light' Dynamic volume. Apart from that I used the Evo file settings verbatim with the exception of boosting the xover on my center to 100Hz, which I find helps with voice clarity (esp. male voices) on my setup.

After a good long listen last night, both gaming and watching shows with good sound, and doing A/B tests vs regular Audyssey with my presets, my verdict is in: A1 Evo makes an very noticeable improvement in the sound. Overall presentation is more enveloping, voices are clearer, bass is better integrated with sound overall, and the room somehow even sounds less echoey (it's mostly untreated and a bit of a echoey mess). My lady (who's not that much of a critical listener tbh) even heard the same thing when I A/B with a regular Audyssey preset, and agrees with me.

System: 5.2.4 (3 subs), Denon AVR-X4700H, 2xKlipsch SPL-150 on split sub channel 1, at front, inside main speakers position), 1xMonolith V12 V2 (rear left, sub channel 2), Energy RC-70, RC-LCR, RC-10, 4* in-ceiling speakers are Insignia.

Thank you so much for your hard work OCA, you are brilliant mate!
Cheers!
 
Hey, OCA, just a quick question: v3x set the crossover for all my speakers at 90Hz, which seems reasonable and intutive. The Maestro version put my two largest speakers (FL and FR) at 120Hz, while keeping all the others at 90Hz. What could be the reason for such a change between the two versions?
 
Hey, OCA, just a quick question: v3x set the crossover for all my speakers at 90Hz, which seems reasonable and intutive. The Maestro version put my two largest speakers (FL and FR) at 120Hz, while keeping all the others at 90Hz. What could be the reason for such a change between the two versions?
Try to re-run but use the "force large" option this time (no problem running any speaker that can reach at least 60Hz at -3dB as large).
 
Try to re-run but use the "force large" option this time (no problem running any speaker that can reach at least 60Hz at -3dB as large).
I could try that, but I think I need some crossover, to let the subs do the heavy lifting.
 
So far, everyone who used force Large option had a dramatic shift in their bass response.
 
So far, everyone who used force Large option had a dramatic shift in their bass response.
In a positive direction? Are you supposed to set the bass to LFE+Main if you have fronts at Large? Or do you keep it at LFE only? Edit: Found the info in the logs.
 
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In a positive direction? Are you supposed to set the bass to LFE+Main if you have fronts at Large? Or do you keep it at LFE only?

I've never understood this either, because if you've got crossovers _anywhere_, then you're getting more than LFE anyway ... so what is "main" beyond what is crossed over? Surely it's not doubling up your bass
 
In a positive direction? Are you supposed to set the bass to LFE+Main if you have fronts at Large? Or do you keep it at LFE only?
Evo compares both and picks the one that tracks the curve curve best and to some extent the one with less group delay in the bass region. More often than not, LFE + Main is selected. LFE is required if you opt for aligning the sub to centre speaker.
 
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