I've been a madman testing subs the past 14 months or so. This just happens to be a time when I only have two in my possession, sb1000 for my computer setup and a PE 15" in the garage.
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Ascend Acoustics Sierra LX Review
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I've been a madman testing subs the past 14 months or so. This just happens to be a time when I only have two in my possession, sb1000 for my computer setup and a PE 15" in the garage.
Not to veer too far off topic on this thread, but I wouldn't make that move. The sb4000 is my least favorite sealed svs sub.
Oh really, what's the reason?
The Kef R3 Meta was on top of my list to try, they're very well received and reviewed as well. Have never heard it in person but if I have extra money I would love to collect a few sets of different speakers lol Kinda like have multiple suits, it's nice to have different lapels, styles, and colors, so I could wear whichever depending on my mood.
Looks like fun! lol My LX paired seamlessly with the PB-2000, few years ago I bought both SB2000 and PB2000 to demo them, end up keeping the PB-2000, , the SB2000 was just a little bit more musical and tighter, but ultimately the lower bass extension from PB2000 won me over, and it hits harder.
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Lol I tried this when the LX was first released. Dave was not impressed (understandably so) and I was denied shipping to anything other than my address...
Really? That's rather interesting. I wonder why.
As a manufacturer, there are several reasons.
Merchant protection laws require shipping to the billing address. We have been victims of fraud more times than I care to remember.
The very real risk of damage during the testing process. I have scratched / dinged countless speakers testing them on the NFS. Since we offer a 30-day satisfaction guarantee, we must protect ourselves.
There is the potential to be ethically wrong, anyone could simply order speakers, send them out for testing / review and then simply return them under a 30-day satisfaction guarantee. These are very expensive products to manufacture. knowing how both Amir and Erin try to stay as ethical as possible, I don't even think they would agree to this if they knew a customer was attempting this. I certainly wouldn't stand for this.
In addition, for many of Erin's reviews, he will open a speaker up, remove parts - take pics etc. That is not only an immediate void of our satisfaction guarantee (as it should be), but also voids our warranty if we don't grant permission to do so in advance.
I am sure you would agree, manufacturers must protect themselves.
No, it is actually an integral part of the performance of this tweeter.
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A note on placement. This is about what I hear when I stand behind the speakers.
At 10 feet into the room, the sound stage behind the speakers is thin. From the front, no problem, it sounds like the stage is behind the speakers. But go behind the speaker and there is only a faint bit of sound stage there.
At 9 feet into the room, the sound stage behind the speakers is solid, rich, and with not much drop off from the front. Like standing in the middle of the band. Fuller bass too, at the main seating location. So that's where they are going to live.
So don't pull them more than 9 feet out from a wall, that's my suggestion. I doubt many will, but I wanted to offer that up.
At 10 feet into the room, the sound stage behind the speakers is thin. From the front, no problem, it sounds like the stage is behind the speakers. But go behind the speaker and there is only a faint bit of sound stage there.
At 9 feet into the room, the sound stage behind the speakers is solid, rich, and with not much drop off from the front. Like standing in the middle of the band. Fuller bass too, at the main seating location. So that's where they are going to live.
So don't pull them more than 9 feet out from a wall, that's my suggestion. I doubt many will, but I wanted to offer that up.
I get down to 20 and then a relatively gentle rise into the sub-20 region at moderate volume (~70db at one meter or close enough). Old house, bouncy floor. Which reminds me, I need to try them with pipe organ music again now that the placement is dialed in.
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The Meyer sound speaker incident during the measurement was a nightmare,agree on that.
Very well articulated and makes sense to me.
I can't speak for Matt, but in general, the SB-3000 is a newer, better engineered sub. It will run right with the 4000 in mid-bass output with no problem. The 4000 has more output over the lower frequencies thanks to its larger enclosure. If you're after more extension, I would opt for the PB-3000. It comes with port plugs so it can be tuned for whatever response works best in your room.
You guys are a bad influence. Putting up my Sierra 2 EX v2 's up for sale (check the ASR classifieds) in order to purchase an LX pair soon once magnetic grills are more readily available.
I still plan to upgrade to the ELX towers at some point. At that time, I'll move the LX to surrounds. I'd imagine the bass punch and the LX's ability to sound "tower like" would be awesome for home theater, especially as a surround speaker where placement and budget don't always allow for towers.
I still plan to upgrade to the ELX towers at some point. At that time, I'll move the LX to surrounds. I'd imagine the bass punch and the LX's ability to sound "tower like" would be awesome for home theater, especially as a surround speaker where placement and budget don't always allow for towers.
Good move! Life is too short, so why save the good things for later?
I really need to move mine down into my theater area and see how they do. Currently have JBL Studio 590s there, so it would be a true tower vs 'tower-like' bookshelf comparison. Physics will dictate some limits of comparison there of course, but I might be surprised.
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To put some numbers on this ...
That seems to be from a boost in reverb at 3 base nodes of ~ +100ms. EQ does get set to address those modes, but I've been using no eq to set things up.
This change also turned the 1-2k bump to a blip at 1k. I am finding that in my room, that 1-2k speaker bump is open to alteration through placement in a lot of ways. If I wanted a boost 1-3k, I can make that happen (I definitely don't, but someone might).
If a cat had not been sleeping in front of one stand, I would have tried the middle distances. Instead, I had no choice but to listen to music all morning.
...I measured this morning.
That seems to be from a boost in reverb at 3 base nodes of ~ +100ms. EQ does get set to address those modes, but I've been using no eq to set things up.
This change also turned the 1-2k bump to a blip at 1k. I am finding that in my room, that 1-2k speaker bump is open to alteration through placement in a lot of ways. If I wanted a boost 1-3k, I can make that happen (I definitely don't, but someone might).
If a cat had not been sleeping in front of one stand, I would have tried the middle distances. Instead, I had no choice but to listen to music all morning.
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