Pearljam5000
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And twotwo.8?
For some reason PMC doesn't get mentioned at all around here.
For some reason PMC doesn't get mentioned at all around here.
There's already all the info you need to avoid them..
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...pmc-twenty-21-bookshelf-speaker-review.14442/
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/pmc-speakers.9311/#post-243129
Yeah, there's a reason for that. They're just remarkably crap. Awful frequency response, super messy directivity, super high distortion. I have no doubt they could build good speakers, if they abandoned that stupid transmission line thing in their small box designs.And twotwo.8?
For some reason PMC doesn't get mentioned at all around here.
They are well regarded in the pro audio world (almost like ATC)so I'm surprisedYeah, there's a reason for that. They're just remarkably crap. Awful frequency response, super messy directivity, super high distortion. I have no doubt they could build good speakers, if they abandoned that stupid transmission line thing in their small box designs.
Something about emperors and clothes.They are well regarded in the pro audio world (almost like ATC)so I'm surprised
They are well regarded in the pro audio world (almost like ATC)so I'm surprised
You can see the off-axis horizontal and vertical responses in the review on the Stereophile site. I, too, had to toe them in but never got them to sound right anyway.I'd ask Kal if measurements were taken twenty to thirty degrees off axis. I've sat in on some lower model PMC dems as well as the Fact 8 and 12 Signature models and NONE OF THEM toed the speakers to the listener!!!!! (these speakers sounded slightly dull if anything due to the presence dip) I suspect the kind of trendy homes accommodating such speakers wouldn't think of toeing them in either as appearance-in-room is everything... The smallest 25
Not as big as the BB5s with XB but I was similarly disappointed with the IB-1S back in 1998:I've rather liked the PMCs I've heard in studios, but then they were 'proper' TLs, wall mounted and equalised, (BB5s with XB) not the little ones, too small for the TL to do much.
I think any loudspeaker needs individual equalising to achieve a properly flat response (say to no more than +-1dB) A few loudspeakers with DSP crossovers built-in achieve that, as far as I'm aware, no passive 'speaker even gets close, nor do unequalised actives.You can see the off-axis horizontal and vertical responses in the review on the Stereophile site. I, too, had to toe them in but never got them to sound right anyway.
Not as big as the BB5s with XB but I was similarly disappointed with the IB-1S back in 1998:
Eh, some actives get close, but very few indeed. In room, absolutely not. But rooms screw everything up.I think any loudspeaker needs individual equalising to achieve a properly flat response (say to no more than +-1dB) A few loudspeakers with DSP crossovers built-in achieve that, as far as I'm aware, no passive 'speaker even gets close, nor do unequalised actives.
Ah, but you're misunderstanding. That part of audio is art. The tools are not just there to be flawless, they're there as different colors on the pallette, so to speak. I wouldn't want to use super flat mics and super clean mic preamps most of the time unless I was strictly recording documentary style (which I do not, and frankly very few do).Because a section of the at least the studio recording world behave like audiofools they venerate unspeakable bad monitors, obsess over badly measuring vintage mics, colour the sound with excessively expensive mic preamps that, wait for it, measure badly and think that the more expensive an AD converter the better it is.
Amir should start a ProAudioScienceReview on the basis it's no use having a great reproduction system if the recording was made on crap.
Sure but, even for those who agree with you about DSP, why start with something so not right?I think any loudspeaker needs individual equalising to achieve a properly flat response (say to no more than +-1dB) A few loudspeakers with DSP crossovers built-in achieve that, as far as I'm aware, no passive 'speaker even gets close, nor do unequalised actives.
Ah, yes. I was inspired to build a large version of the Pro Monitor (with the help of John Wright). Loved it for years.For historical note, I'll try and include anechoic (Hirst Labs near Watford) and now fifty year old data for one of the granddaddy and direct inspirations of all PMC speakers, the UK made IMF Monitor - This one kind of grew into the pro Mopnitor (B139 bass, B110 mid and HF1300/Hf2000 tweeters