copperblue
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Furniture that makes a noise. I'm in!
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A new $7000 CD Player? Insane.
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copperblue
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Split the crowd this one. Not exactly Ramen-Fi is it?
Rotel demonstrate old school overkill engineering excellence, Japanese way. I'm not in the market for this but appreciate the fact that Rotel have brought it to market.
Rotel demonstrate old school overkill engineering excellence, Japanese way. I'm not in the market for this but appreciate the fact that Rotel have brought it to market.
manisandher
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Mine had the regular filter. There were two filter settings, from what I can remember. I preferred the sound of the brickwall.
To my knowledge, there was only a single one-off RHCD-10 with a PMD100 filter. The RCD-990 followed, with the PMD100 as standard.
(There was actually a PMD200 too. My Esoteric P70/D70 (which replaced my RHCD-10) used one, as did Naim's CD555.)
Mani.
Seems Maximo, after acquiring the Sound United brands, is trying to up the prices of the Reference level Marantz products and now the Michi products as well. If you’re following the financial press, Masimo is in the midst of a very serious internal conflict between the CEO and a group of shareholders who own a significant portion of the company’s stock. The reporting has been the CEO acquired Sound United believing the audio brands could be made more profitable whereas the shareholder group objects strenuously as they believe the audio brands will negatively impact Masimo’s financial performance. It looks like the plan for audio is to introduce higher priced products with better margins. We’ll see on that I guess but I’m personally leery of purchasing any Sound United gear until it’s clearer what is going to happen at Masimo.
manisandher
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Got a chance to see (but not hear) the new Michi stack at the Ascot Hifi Show today.
Actually much nicer (and larger!) in the flesh than I had imagined. Aesthetically, I much preferred this over the ultra-high-priced bling in other rooms (Dan D’Agostino, etc.), most of which sounded pretty awful to boot.
The MBL room sounded quite good... but against a pretty low bar.
I can't help but think that the 'high end' is in trouble...
Mani.
Actually much nicer (and larger!) in the flesh than I had imagined. Aesthetically, I much preferred this over the ultra-high-priced bling in other rooms (Dan D’Agostino, etc.), most of which sounded pretty awful to boot.
The MBL room sounded quite good... but against a pretty low bar.
I can't help but think that the 'high end' is in trouble...
Mani.
Roland68
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Yes, they are very large.
They don't fit in all standard racks.
manisandher
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The Rotel RB-1590 monster power amp is only 431 mm in width, inline with most "full-width" gear. Though I'm not sure an actual standard exists.
The 'full width' standard seems to come from the professional 19" rack mount standard, which allows 17" for the actual equipment and 1" each side for clearance and the rack ears. 17" is 431.8mm and I've measured 432mm as the normal width of full width equipment, although they don't all meet that, a few mm more or less isn't unknown.
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manisandher
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Without meaning to turn this thread into a show report, I was surprised at how good/clean the Manley valve pre and valve mono power amps sounded. I suspect Manley must have some real output transformer know how.
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Sure everything is relative, but there is no way that the Rotel Michi isn't considered ultra-high-priced/end already. It really is a stupid product that have no reason whatsoever to exist imo.
Roland68
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Yes, 42-43cm device width is the standard, and the HiFi racks are designed for that. Some devices can be screwed into the 19" racks using additional brackets. Sony, Tascam and others have had conversion kits for some devices.
With extra-wide and particularly deep devices, some manufacturers want to set themselves apart and define themselves as upper high-end or premium brands.
The appropriate racks are then in other spheres.
coonmanx
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Early 90s JVC XL-V151 CD player that I got off of Ebay for about $20 shipped. Excellent player with zero issues. Sounds great. If I am going to pay 7K for a CD player then it had better come with hookers, blow and a bidet. LOL. Although I have zero use for any of those things... Well, the bidet might be nice.
Darko sucks!
That just hurts himself, he gets less clicks that way.
It shows how brilliant (or not) he actually is.
And how vindictive (if you do POTENTIALLY do not agree with him) that he actually is.
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He knows what majority of people here think of his purely subjective reviews... and paying that kind of money for a transport and a DAC, gosh... He knows he won't get cheer leading from here and it can hurt the money he gets to advertise all those audio components... For sure those audio components look good. I'm not judging people buying that stuff, some people pay 10K$ for a watch so...
But for the music itself, i simply don't understand buying it when you can rip your CD collection with EAC in FLAC once for all. Once done, you have access to your full catalog from a NAS or any share (even one on your PC) using something like Volumio and a good DAC. These days, a ~200$ DAC is better that human ears! or one can even even go for something like an Eversolo DMP-A6. You get conveniance, you see artwork, you can make playlist, add a streaming service,etc. DAC technology is a very well mastered technology by engineers, it became a commodity. There's really no need to pay big money for getting great sound. I don't even remember when i sold my last CD player, something like 20 years ago but i really don't miss it.
You can't display, or browse, a collection of files on your wall or shelving.
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The advantages of digital files are OBVIOUS, specially here in ASR. No need to explain them again. Always wondered why the need to keep repeating them.
"There's really no need to pay big money for getting great sound" also (obviously) applies to CD playing. There is an implication in the comment above that it doesn't. Just because we are talking about a $7000 CD player... well, it doesn't mean they all cost that! I have a $300 CD player that I assure you under a controlled experiment is indistinguishable from the $7000 one. Or from a streaming/file setup, all things being equal.
[Edit: Just to preempt comments, because ASR is aggressive like that, $300 gets you a better build on a device that has a huge mechanical component - I know that sound wise there is no difference to a $50 or even $25 dollar CD player]
Simply, I don't want to rip files. Don't need to explain myself, but well, will do as a courtesy - too OCD re: tags. Add that to an old school preference for physical media, plus the fact that it is a little better for the artist, well, there you go. Eversolo DMP-A6? That's fancy - YOU MUST BE A SUBJECTIVIST!
(I kid I kid, do not really mean it!)
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It could be done with a large touch screen TV connected to a PC that contained or had access to your ripped CD collection running one of the many available music player apps.
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