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A new $7000 CD Player? Insane.

I don't mean to beat a dead horse about the sound quality of a PS1, I never needed to play a CD on one when I had a PS1 but how many of those PS1's were sold? Some millions certainly, tens or hundreds isn't important.
Most of those people that bought a PS1 didn't play CD's in them either but if I remember correctly it wore the official "compact disk digital audio" artwork on the case.
"perfect sound forever"
 
Early in the CD days, Toshiba made a low cost, low power consumption D/A converter chip intended for portables/ghetto blasters etc. It was a 14bit design, and it ran non-oversampled. I have a few of the players that used those converters here.

When I get the chance, I'll throw them on the analyzer to show you. They betray themselves pretty quickly compared to even a vintage genuine 16 bit player, especially on low level classical pieces played back at a robust level.
 
G|force said:
I don't mean to beat a dead horse about the sound quality of a PS1, I never needed to play a CD on one when I had a PS1 but how many of those PS1's were sold? Some millions certainly, tens or hundreds isn't important.
Most of those people that bought a PS1 didn't play CD's in them either but if I remember correctly it wore the official "compact disk digital audio" artwork on the case.
"perfect sound forever"
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Actually it does not have that Logo you have in mind on the case. Such was just an indicator it met redbook standards which didn't mandate some minimal level of performance at the analog outputs.
 
restorer-john said:
Early in the CD days, Toshiba made a low cost, low power consumption D/A converter chip intended for portables/ghetto blasters etc. It was a 14bit design, and it ran non-oversampled. I have a few of the players that used those converters here.

When I get the chance, I'll throw them on the analyzer to show you. They betray themselves pretty quickly compared to even a vintage genuine 16 bit player, especially on low level classical pieces played back at a robust level.
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So some outlier designs make for different sounding players? Is it a big issue with various optical disc players generally? Let alone ones limited to cd?
 
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Chrispy said:
So some outlier designs make for different sounding players? Is it a big issue with various optical disc players generally? Let alone ones limited to cd?
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Not a big issue. By the late 1980s, CD players had pretty much hit the limits and once the better performing delta-sigma D/As got a toehold, they were pretty much indistinguishable from one another. I'm sure there were outliers- there always are.
 
That's "courageous" I guess, to try and sell a 7.000 dollar cd player. A brave thing to manufacture at this day and age. :D
 
CD players don't sound different when you take the digital out. But the analog stage is something different. My father had a Denon from the 1980's and bought a new Marantz in 2010, and that analog part of the Marantz was a lot better than the Denon, but both digital out to the same convertor (i tested with an older Apogee AD8000 trough sp/dif at that time) it sounded the same. The Marantz convertor (that is way more modern than the Apogee) was the best, but probally only average compared to what is availeble now.

These days you best buy a good transport with digital (sp/dif) out, that does not have to cost even thousands. The Marantz is a good one and costed a few hundreds, and cheaper is also possible. Couple that with a good dac and you got it as good as it gets. No need for a 7K cd player at all.

I rip cd's with my old Lenovo laptop and store them in a box in my attic after that. I play digital music from my NAS server where all those are stored. And that is how many now work. But if you want the classic cd player, a Marantz CD6007 (500€) coupled to a good dac (can be less than 100€, see review list) is as good as it gets. And I say Marantz because i know the brand, but i'm sure there are even cheaper devices that also do it right in that kind of config that i don't know about also.
 
i dont think its that bad

like michi has always been expensive and with CD getting a revival like vinyl before it i'm not surprised the high end guys are out for a bite

i think the cocktail hour networked connected BR jobs with hdd onboard and being a full service music video streamer and server makes a whole heap more sense to me but this isnt about 'sense'
 
Ah, I'm reminded of my old Rotel Michi RHCD-10. Gorgeous CD player with a great sound. Not so keen on this new Michi though.
 
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