Genelec 8361A Review (Powered Monitor)

[staticV3]

@amirm I think Pearljam is actively trying to kill you:

Can you send a pair of 8381 for Amir for a review please ?

Considering:

 

[TonyJZX]

doesnt amir have the klippel set up on the 2nd floor

and the unit has to be hoisted up on a platform?

and each speaker drive unit requries two amps?

 

[Pearljam5000]

@amirm I think Pearljam is actively trying to kill you:


Considering:
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doesnt amir have the klippel set up on the 2nd floor

and the unit has to be hoisted up on a platform?

and each speaker drive unit requries two amps?

I didn't say it's going to be easy for him
Besides if they measured the M9 that weighs a 1000 pounds with the Klippel
Anything is possible

 

[Axo1989]

@amirm I think Pearljam is actively trying to kill you:


Considering:
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Haha, but it comes in convenient bite-sized modules.

doesnt amir have the klippel set up on the 2nd floor

and the unit has to be hoisted up on a platform?

and each speaker drive unit requries two amps?

In the unlikely event of 8381s on our host's doorstep, there would be volunteers. I think @amirm could sell tickets.

 

[Ciobi69]

I didn't say it's going to be easy for him
Besides if they measured the M9 that weighs a 1000 pounds with the Klippel
Anything is possible View attachment 335293

Wish i could see some data

 

[Curvature]

Can you send a pair of 8381 to Amir for a review please ?

We need the GLL data. That's more than good enough considering Genelec's other in-house measurements.

@Ilkka Rissanen Please relay this request internally again. I've been consistently checking the 8381A page but have somewhat given up hope that the GLL data will be released.

 

[Ilkka Rissanen]

We need the GLL data. That's more than good enough considering Genelec's other in-house measurements.

@Ilkka Rissanen Please relay this request internally again. I've been consistently checking the 8381A page but have somewhat given up hope that the GLL data will be released.

What do you expect to see in the GLL data that isn't already visible in the directivity data that is available? GLL does not contain any maximum SPL or distortion data, if those are what you are after.

 

[Curvature]

What do you expect to see in the GLL data that isn't already visible in the directivity data that is available? GLL does not contain any maximum SPL or distortion data, if those are what you are after.

Horizontal/vertical curves, individual frequency balloons, polars, DI, beamwidth.

Detailed directivity data is interesting in its own way.

We can also generate a CTA-2034 spinorama plot.

 

[srrxr71]

Can you send a pair of 8381 to Amir for a review please ?

And an army to lift them.

 

[Pearljam5000]

And an army to lift them.

They come in 2 parts so they're not that heavy

 

[Ilkka Rissanen]

Horizontal/vertical curves, individual frequency balloons, polars, DI, beamwidth.

Detailed directivity data is interesting in its own way.

We can also generate a CTA-2034 spinorama plot.

You can see 99% from these graphs. There isn't anything magical happening beyond the 180 deg planes. The same measurement data is used to create the GLL file, it is not a separate data set.

Btw, isn't this 8361A thread?

 

[Curvature]

You can see 99% from these graphs. There isn't anything magical happening beyond the 180 deg planes. The same measurement data is used to create the GLL file, it is not a separate data set.

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I would like to see the detailed measurements in GLL because they are interesting and allow more investigation. And I'm interested because your work is good, and deserves the attention.

What I was hoping in a response from you was a timeline or an acknowledgement that you are still planning to release it.

Your earlier response from May: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...s-genelec-monitors.44549/page-58#post-1606074

 

[Count Arthur]

And an army to lift them.

1,000 lb deadlift:

It's all about technique.

 

[683712]

I bit the bullet and got myself a new pair of golfing panthers.

 

[Pearljam5000]

I bit the bullet and got myself a new pair of golfing panthers.

How do they sound ?

 

[683712]

How do they sound ?

Just like a really good golfing partners do. Why haven't you got a pair yet?

 

[Pearljam5000]

Just like a really good golfing partners do. Why haven't you got a pair yet?

No $$$

 

[anphex]

I always wondered, is such a messy waterfall graph something to worry about in the long term? Looks as if this fuzzyness is the result of all the heavy dsp tuning of the drivers, making them perform far more restrictive than they would in a passive setup. Aren't the resonances in the range +1 khz at least a little worrysome - non-ideal decay?

 

[Curvature]

I always wondered, is such a messy waterfall graph something to worry about in the long term? Looks as if this fuzzyness is the result of all the heavy dsp tuning of the drivers, making them perform far more restrictive than they would in a passive setup. Aren't the resonances in the range +1 khz at least a little worrysome - non-ideal decay?

This waterfall plot?

I want to point out that instead of telling yourself "I don't know" and just asking, you are inventing reasons.

The messiness is because the graph is not anechoic. The low frequencies are noise in Amir's garage, and the rest are related to resonances of Klippel fixture.

Amir does a poor job of presenting this plot, using inconsistent axes and 3D position/rotation, and furthermore he is aware of Klippel resonances, but never distinguishes between them and speaker resonances in his commentary or labels. I generally ignore it. If there are actual speaker issues they show up in the on and off-axis curves.

 

[RobL]

Sound & Recording’s measurements showed no noteworthy resonances, they even commented on the lack of such.