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Apologies if I'm being a bit thick but if this monitor only has Analog inputs and DSP does it do some sort of ADC then DAC?
Yes.Apologies if I'm being a bit thick but if this monitor only has Analog inputs and DSP does it do some sort of ADC then DAC?
Given the comment provided by @voodooless above, highlighting we see the same profile in the whole range, that's probably done on purpose.I think so but it is possible they don't have the precision measurements we have that show the flaws. Their own measurements are highly smoothed.
Thanks for the pics and post. That looks quite clean inside.Can see the size of the Pro 5 @ the right side speaker of the speakers video.
Teardown pics of the inside of the Pro 5.
$149 is a crazy value especially when you take into consideration the inclusion of DSP and most importantly, that you can actually make them sound better via EQ without pulling it apart and redesigning the entire crossover system! Compare this to the budget DSP desktop speaker from iLoud (popular on ASR) for over $320 each and you get a sense of the Pro5 value at less than half the cost of the iLoud.Of course they are very cheap speakers and for that money it's hard to ask for much, I haven't heard them but I was hearing a lot of praise left right and center for those from people. I was expecting Adam T series performance or close. I don't see that.
Why the price increase?In thinking further about this, @amirm literally did all the necessary listening tests and reporting on this speaker to such a succinct level of expertise and professionalism that NOW, the team from RCF can simply revise their DSP to adopt Amir's findings - hopefully, the speaker can then be marketed as "ASR optimized", with a little licensing fee flowing Amir's way and only a price increase of 10% for this improvement.
To pass on the cost of managing royalty payments being collected - I assumed this speaker has thin margins to begin with and if they're going to pay ASR, it costs money to manage those payments (hiring an accounting team, lawyers to draft the licensing agreement, etc.)Why the price increase?
Many (most?) of the active monitors in this price range are now using DSP internally, as are a fair few of the cheaper ones like the Edifiers. Very few expose much control to the customer though - a few switches to alter the EQ for different placement, or a couple of pots for bass and treble. The iLoud MTM distinguishes itself by offering more control of the EQ, a mic for measurement and some degree of automation.$149 is a crazy value especially when you take into consideration the inclusion of DSP and most importantly, that you can actually make them sound better via EQ without pulling it apart and redesigning the entire crossover system! Compare this to the budget DSP desktop speaker from iLoud (popular on ASR) for over $320 each and you get a sense of the Pro5 value at less than half the cost of the iLoud.
Amir will review what people ship to him. Start sending him some speakers to test in your preferred price range. I think there is a practical limit on size/ weight though, as he is a one-man operation.@amirm
Not a dig, but do you get tired of measuring these ultra-budget type speakers? I imagine almost anyone who frequents this forum is going to be able to stretch a bit further (say $200 more), for something that performs rather better.
Personally, I feel it a little pointless (same with cables, power conditioners and old amplifiers with grotty, out of spec parts).
Obviously, you can do what you want, it is your site, but these are things I'd prefer to see less of (I'd rather seeing what higher 4 figure and 5 figure speakers are capable of, even though I don't have the funds set aside for them in the near future). I don't know how others feel.
On the other hand, I have minimal interest in headphones, but can understand why others would be interested (even if sometimes my heart drops at 3 or 4 headphone reviews in a row).
What makes you say they didn't and DSP was only for bass "extension"? We don't know how bad it was to begin with!If there’s a DSP in there for bass extension why not use it to smooth the overall response like @amirm did? It doesn’t make sense as there will be no extra cost.
The tests are already done! By @amirm. It’s in the public domain here in ASR. Just apply them.To pass on the cost of managing royalty payments being collected - I assumed this speaker has thin margins to begin with and if they're going to pay ASR, it costs money to manage those payments (hiring an accounting team, lawyers to draft the licensing agreement, etc.)
Because I’m an engineer, an acoustician and commercial speaker designer. I have the knowledge and experience on the frequency response expected and the limits of equalisation that can be applied on the speakers I see. +/-3dB extra as applied by @amirm is well within such limits.What makes you say they didn't and DSP was only for bass "extension"? We don't know how bad it was to begin with!