Hope this helps?Would you happen to have a link? Would love to give these a listen.
Very nice. Thank you.Hope this helps?
Since the discussion on the last vote about the sound quality of speakers via binaural recordings was so harmonious, I thought it would be a good idea to repeat the whole thing with other binaural recordings of speakers. And that's why I just plagiarized the thread title (and more) from @thewas...www.audiosciencereview.com
Only thing is, what actually *is* the "original recording"? Is it what is on the "tape" (as to say)? Or is it a recording of the playback of the "original recording" in the studion using dummy head technique, where it was mixed--again and then legally listen to over headphones?Very nice. Thank you.
Won't comment in detail to prevent continuing a different thread here. But a really interesting exercise and must-try IMO.
There is a lot of room in this video. Which is, as far as I understand, essential to the OB approach.Once I found what I thought was a good demo recording of a loudspeaker. It sounded good on my headphones so I thought I'd try and hear how would it sound when played back on my system. The "effect" was very strange, to say the least. Like in some kind of a "feedback loop", I could hear not the "character" of the loudspeakers on the video (it sounded fairly neutral), but the sound (decay) of the actual room they were set up in (as opposed to mine). Even more strange was the effect that the sound stage was confined exactly by the boundaries of my TV screen. Like there was a tiny person singing "over there". To me it sounded like If I would record a video of my system playing and when played back all of a sudden not only the room fits the screen, but also the sound. Weird. And I have no clue how this could happen.
Edit: Found it:
If you are interested, please try listening to this over your headphones and then your loudspeakers to compare the two. I would be most interested to hear what you guys think. If you hear similar "effect", is it due to the fact that these are open baffle speakers, dipole, or is it because it was made with (Sennheiser) binaural microphone? Or maybe something else?
Agree. At around 11:00 my bookshelves got six times as large. No kidding. YMMV but for me the illusion was real. Very cool!I don't know. Sometimes the room sound seemed more evident than others, though with a speaker tone still seemingly coming through.
(You can for instance often hear some of the original recorded acoustics/reverb character in the recording - e.g. reverb added to voices, instruments, the hall reverb for an orchestra etc, even though the speakers may be in a relatively small room).
Here's one of the videos I watched. They generally recorded from seats right in front of each pair of speakers:
As I mentioned, on my big screen with my HT speaker system, it was a really cool visual/sonic impression of "visiting" each room.
Remember this one, there is thread on here on this experiment, and they described how they did the recordings.
Wow. If you can hear the difference between those speakers, then you've got great headphones! I listened with my best headphones, and was suitably impressed with the mic'ing of the room, but the speakers sounded like a direct connection, meaning the speakers and mics exceeded the quality of my audio chain. However, the soundstage of the room was excellent, because when someone dropped something during one of the demos, I knew it was behind me and to the right.
They sound totally different even on my cheap headphones / speakersWow. If you can hear the difference between those speakers, then you've got great headphones! I listened with my best headphones, and was suitably impressed with the mic'ing of the room, but the speakers sounded like a direct connection, meaning the speakers and mics exceeded the quality of my audio chain. However, the soundstage of the room was excellent, because when someone dropped something during one of the demos, I knew it was behind me and to the right.
James Blake's "Limit to Your Love" is my new speaker (and neighbor) torture song!
Of course, there is no way someone like me can get the full impact of speakers like those through YouTube. But then, $30K is my car budget, not my speaker budget!
In the livestream, they talk to people in the chat. Everyone is chat is as amazed at the midrange/vocal quality of the Grimm LS1be. OK, I know what you're going to say, confirmation bias and what have you, but really were you not staggered by this speaker in the test like those seated were, I know I was. Listen to the track starting 1:56:00, that sound is something else. It is something else if I listen on my headphones or speakers (and neither of them are those speakers). Now I need £30k+ for some speakers....This makes more sense, since it compares different speaker against each other, not a speaker to original. the speakers clearly sound different, BUT - if I hear those speakers, will the recordings represent a similar experience as for listening to the real speakers. I am not convinced.
It depends what your bar is for work. Done well I think it can work, in that you can get much information you need, but yeah it will never be perfect.If only this could work. Imagine the possibilites to present new speakers and technology. If only.
but really were you not staggered by this speaker in the test like those seated were, I know I was. Listen to the track starting 1:56:00, that sound is something else. It is something else if I listen on my headphones or speakers (and neither of them are those speakers). Now I need £30k+ for some speakers....
It's a fair question, not the easiest to answer, but I suppose it is because I imagine it is but a glimpse of the full potential of the speakers. Essentially what I'm listening for is tonal balance and presentation, almost any decent speaker should be able to convey this to an extent, but obviously that is not the same as listening to the actual speaker.Why do you need £30k for new speakers, if the demo sound is "something else" through your speakers or headphones?
I'm not trying to be funny, just curious.
There will of course be audible differences between speakers in such a demo, but how do you know which is better, without knowing exactly how it was recorded, and how it sounded in real life, and how do you know EQ or other processing hasn't been involved?