Many thanks to all for the time you take for me, I appreciate a lot, you guys rock !
I just realised I did write a really long post here, I apologize about it. I take this opportunity to apologize about my english which can probably be strange sometimes (french here).
Going for the endgame from the start might be cheaper in the end, I can understand that line of reasoning.
That is the way I'm thinking, actually I must say I find an ecological value of buying only once. Of course you could say buying B-stock or on eBay would be even better in a ecological manner but for now i'm definitly more considering buying new regarding the time i'll keep the setup. I also want to compare the stand by modes from Genelec and Neumann stuff BTW.
On power consumption Neumann KH80 say full output is 180W and Genelec 8331 is 60W, I guess Genelec is saying this per amp or do I miss something ? This is the same between Neumann KH 750 and Genelec 7360 BTW, Genelec says 300W full output power consumption for 300W amp and Neumann says 410W full output consumption for 250W amp. Is Genelec lying on something ?
The other thing with 8331 is a lot of people say they are less fatiguing than other due to coax + 3 way and I will use them almost everyday for longs periods and for a while as i'm working home often with music and taking a lot of my free time on PC. I think I could listen to them something like average of 4 to 6 hours per day with some crazy 12+ hours some week-end days, definitely not only music but also talking on Discord, watching Youtube stuff, playing games, etc...
Maybe you want floorstanding speakers instead of a desktop setup? Maybe you find out you prefer headphones over speakers?
That is maybe the only thing I am sure about -> I need a desktop very near field setup and I definitly prefer to have speakers than headphones. I bought the HD 800S thinking I could change my mind on this but the main reason i'm not listening to it a lot is because it doesn't appear easy to use for me (after each session I carefully take it back in its box, and i use it for music only so I have to be doing only this).
Thanks a lot
@digitalfrost for your message which is very informative
Narrow vs wide directivity is a question of preference/taste and just have to see what works for you.
Wide seems better for me as I will probably listen to the speakers in front of them and also more on back left, let be crazy and show you a schema :
Everything is approx, but you get the global idea on this. The speakers will be the 1 and 2 circles, BTW I don't know yet where to put the sub but it is an other story and I'll probably ask on the forum when i'll have the stuff at home and make my own tests before this.
I will mainly be listening on the Desk, but also on the bed, I know it won't be optimal but it will happen anyway. In this case I might just turn the speakers so I am in front of them but I won't do much more. It would be awesome to have 2 DSP ready setups to easily switch from one to another when i'm on the bed or on the desk BTW.
I am not surprised you don't like the HD800S and I can see what makes the Bose good
Actually i've said this to not write too much about it but this is note 100% true. I've tried it with some different EQ and it mainly depends on this but here's a bit more context.
I hear the HD800S is better than the Bose especially on details, I've listen to some music I know well and I've literally cried when the conditions are met (being well focused and in a good mindset, being a bit drunk helps a lot as well haha). I've never experienced this with the Bose even if I think it could happen with more met conditions. I'd say the HD 800S can "mind blow" me more easily when I have the specific mindset which I rarely have.
The downside of the headphone is that I find it definitly fatiguing and I cannot listen to it too long. Every EQ here is putting more bass which I enjoy a lot and the HD 800S is has way cleaner bass but I have the feeling that those bass are hitting my hear waaay harder than the Bose. I don't know how to well describe it but if I listen to this for several hours I have the feeling it really has hurt my hears. I guess the HD 800S goes deeper in low frequencies and it could be this but maybe it is something else. I'm still a bit confused with this.
Anyway I can't say I enjoy the HD800S less than the Bose on pure sound quality, but I can't listen to it for a while and it is way less easy to use (cables and stuff), so at the end I almost never listen to it ...
I've the 7360A subwoofer for my 8330A after I first trying the 7350 which I found to be too weak for me.
I have the feeling 7360 would be overkill here even if i finally could buy it with all the package if I could definitively hear a difference.
On the other side if I want to spend the same price I could buy two 7350 which would be better sound than one 7360 on low listening levels, no ?
As a final word I would say, don't bother listening at a store it's always different at home and more importantly :
- Go on Thomann, order kali IN5 + Neumann KH750 + MA1 and on Amazon to order topping EX5
- Set the system (Room Correction) and try it for 2 weeks to get accustomed and "calibrate" your ears
- Send them back and order Genelec 8331 + 7350 + GLM
- Set the system (Room Correction) and try it for an entire month
- If after a month you're convinced, you can keep your genelec with no regret. Otherwise you'll know what to do
Actually you are making me think about a different scenario :
- Buy the whole Genelec setup + a Neumann + DSP one on Thomann, I can afford it if I finally return one of them
- Listen to both of them. I will not be able to A/B test them but at least I can try them for several hours / days and then change, change back etc etc.
- Return the Genelec if I don't see a big difference in everyday use cases, return the other one otherwise
Do you guys think this could work well ? I've the feeling 30 days is enough to make all the tests I want even on 2 setups. If I go on this scenario I need to chose my exact challenger setup though :-D
Thanks a lot for the time you guys take for me, I'll buy you a box of chocolates when I'll have the setup (if I haven't spend all my money in it).