Topping E70 Velvet (AKM 4499EX)

[drewdawg999]

It's highly likely you'd never be able to tell a difference with DSD playback using the D-6 or E70V when properly level matched in a controlled test.

Not only that, I have 16bit/44kHz master recordings that absolutely spank many DSD masters in my collection. I don't look for a particular technology used in the recording, I just want the best recorded master whatever the format.

Regardless, just enjoy the D-6. It's a nice DAC for the money.

I did have trouble distinguishing between Opus 320 and DSD converted to PCM, using the ABX in foobar2000. But funny enough the Prd mode on the D-6 is slightly softer than the Pr0 mode. Yet I prefer it, smoother, more detailed and refined. At least that's what I hear in my room, don't care if it's placebo because it sounds incredible anyways. I'm enjoying the hell out of it, it's been many days of great pleasure.

Yes some DSD mastering is lackluster, I'm thinking of some of MFSL's recent efforts. But some Analogue Productions and SHM-SACDs are spectacular. I'm listening to this Art Pepper Meets the Rhythm Section and wow it sounds good. So involving, smooth, detailed, everything I like. Art Pepper's beautiful alto is recreated so realistically he's in the room with me, a wonderful sensation. The D-6 is a super bargain and I love it.

 

[SYJ]

Hi, I am interested in getting a E70 Velvet DAC. I currently have a Topping D90SE DAC. What is your opinion on this E70 velvet and how do you compare this to the D90SE DAC? Thanks.

I just got E70 V for two days, hence this is the initial thought. I still prefer D90LE/SE (I have both) sound. Maybe I am an ESS Sabre fan. Of all the DACs I have D90LE/SE are my most favorite (they sound the same). I also tried and still have Topping D70 Pro Octo. I think it sounds extremely good but I prefer D90LE/SE. I have Topping DX7 Pro Plus too, petty good, but D90LE/SE is better for me.

If you have D90SE, I don't think you will ever need another DAC. It is the BEST.

 

[Sokel]

I just got E70 V for two days, hence this is the initial thought. I still prefer D90LE/SE (I have both) sound. Maybe I am an ESS Sabre fan. Of all the DACs I have D90LE/SE are my most favorite (they sound the same). I also tried and still have Topping D70 Pro Octo. I think it sounds extremely good but I prefer D90LE/SE. I have Topping DX7 Pro Plus too, petty good, but D90LE/SE is better for me.

If you have D90SE, I don't think you will ever need another DAC. It is the BEST.

The sound???
DACs do not suppose to have their own "sound" for decades now,they are are neutral as it gets unless someone mess with them,heavily.

And it doesn't matter if they have a 120db or 100db SINAD as long as the N part is inaudible.

 

[Digi]

I just got E70 V for two days, hence this is the initial thought. I still prefer D90LE/SE (I have both) sound. Maybe I am an ESS Sabre fan. Of all the DACs I have D90LE/SE are my most favorite (they sound the same). I also tried and still have Topping D70 Pro Octo. I think it sounds extremely good but I prefer D90LE/SE. I have Topping DX7 Pro Plus too, petty good, but D90LE/SE is better for me.

If you have D90SE, I don't think you will ever need another DAC. It is the BEST.

Thanks for reaching out. How do you compare SMSL SU-10 vs Topping D90SE. I have the D90SE but thinking of getting myself another DAC. TIA.

 

[aka_Z]

I just got E70 V for two days, hence this is the initial thought. I still prefer D90LE/SE (I have both) sound. Maybe I am an ESS Sabre fan. Of all the DACs I have D90LE/SE are my most favorite (they sound the same). I also tried and still have Topping D70 Pro Octo. I think it sounds extremely good but I prefer D90LE/SE. I have Topping DX7 Pro Plus too, petty good, but D90LE/SE is better for me.

If you have D90SE, I don't think you will ever need another DAC. It is the BEST.

You just need to burn-in your E70V a bit longer to become better than D90SE. Just don't burn velvet to ash

 

[siwmad]

I wonder if Amir will try the E70? I know there are Wolf's measurements, but I can read Amir better. I'm mainly interested in whether the Jitter problem with COAX has been removed. I ordered E70V and it will be here on Monday. I know that the USB input is the best, so I'm looking forward to the Wiim ultra (add USB out), and now it's listening with the Wiim Pro via COAX.

 

[Audio Flynn]

I wonder if Amir will try the E70? I know there are Wolf's measurements, but I can read Amir better. I'm mainly interested in whether the Jitter problem with COAX has been removed. I ordered E70V and it will be here on Monday. I know that the USB input is the best, so I'm looking forward to the Wiim ultra (add USB out), and now it's listening with the Wiim Pro via COAX.

What did you think of the E70 Velvet?

 

[robertospeed]

What did you think of the E70 Velvet?

I have the Topping E70 Velvet and also E30 II Lite , for me as sound they sound the same and I don't hear any difference and they both work very well , I don't use the optical and coaxial inputs , but only USB PC

 

[Figo]

New user of the E70 Velvet and I have mixed comments and feelings which I share with you:

1.- The DAC has a very good sound for the price in my opinion, I have tried DAC's of similar prices (SMSL, RME, IFi, etc.) in particular the low-mids and mids are very solid, the bass has a good presence and the high frequencies have good timbre without falling into the spectacularity that I have heard in more expensive DACs.

In general, the performance of the DAC seems excellent to me (I have only tried PCM, not DSD).

2.- I have a couple of problems that are bothering me... the first is the big difference in volume when switching between the Exclusive DAC (fixed volume) and Pre-Amp functions. When it is operating as a Exclusive DAC the volume is quite low (I dare to say approximately 50% lower than the volume in Pre-Amp function at 0.0dB)... I could well use it without a problem in Pre-Amp mode if I didn't have the problem #2 which is that the display only shows the volume (in dB's) and there is no way to switch it to display the resolution information and this breaks my head in a very strong way to the point of wanting to return the DAC due to this situation (I have had the DAC for 2 days).

I hope some of you who own an E70V have the solution to any of the situations I mention.

 

[GPJ]

Did you try to factory reset the DAC? Instructions in user manual.

 

[Figo]

Did you try to factory reset the DAC? Instructions in user manual.

It didn't work, it looks like is the factory configuration without a chance to change the settings.

I just found out several Topping DAC's have the same configuration (which make no sense for me...)

Update about the filters... They are useless, they sound exactly the same!

Anyway soundwise is a great DAC which could be even greater if they fix my complaints...

 

[threni]

Update about the filters... They are useless, they sound exactly the same!

Eh? You're not going to get far without a filter! Are the top 5 performing DACs, amps etc also useless for the same reason?

 

[staticV3]

Eh? You're not going to get far without a filter! Are the top 5 performing DACs, amps etc also useless for the same reason?

The Nyquist filter serves an important purpose.

But the ability to switch between six ever-so-slightly different Nyquist filters - not so much. At least for the majority of users.

 

[Toku]

New user of the E70 Velvet and I have mixed comments and feelings which I share with you:

1.- The DAC has a very good sound for the price in my opinion, I have tried DAC's of similar prices (SMSL, RME, IFi, etc.) in particular the low-mids and mids are very solid, the bass has a good presence and the high frequencies have good timbre without falling into the spectacularity that I have heard in more expensive DACs.

In general, the performance of the DAC seems excellent to me (I have only tried PCM, not DSD).

2.- I have a couple of problems that are bothering me... the first is the big difference in volume when switching between the Exclusive DAC (fixed volume) and Pre-Amp functions. When it is operating as a Exclusive DAC the volume is quite low (I dare to say approximately 50% lower than the volume in Pre-Amp function at 0.0dB)... I could well use it without a problem in Pre-Amp mode if I didn't have the problem #2 which is that the display only shows the volume (in dB's) and there is no way to switch it to display the resolution information and this breaks my head in a very strong way to the point of wanting to return the DAC due to this situation (I have had the DAC for 2 days).

I hope some of you who own an E70V have the solution to any of the situations I mention.

There is no difference in level between the E70/E70 Velvet's DAC mode (fixed volume) and Pre mode (maximum volume).
If there is a difference in volume when switching between Pre mode and DAC mode, this is clearly an abnormal operation.

The display shows the sampling rate when in DAC mode, and when in Pre mode, when starting playback or switching to a song with a different sampling rate, the display first shows the sampling rate and immediately switches to displaying the volume level. This behavior is common to Topping products.

 

[Rolls]

I acquired one of these recently. It is excellent! Loving the sound.

 

[Deleted member 49915]

Hi All,

i have the Topping E70 Velvet and it is an excellent dac. But i have noticed something.....when operating the filter settings with the remote one can choose between filters 1 to 6 as stated in the manual. But when operating with the dialer knob on the device itself one can an additional filter number 7.....?! Anyone else noticed this also?
See the photo's i took.....and there's also a very obvious audible difference in sound when having filter 7 activated.

Thanks in advance

 

[fritobugger]

I have the Topping E70 Velvet and also E30 II Lite , for me as sound they sound the same and I don't hear any difference and they both work very well , I don't use the optical and coaxial inputs , but only USB PC

That's nice to know. I will assume the E70V doesn't sound different than the original E30 then.

 

[robertospeed]

Hi All,

i have the Topping E70 Velvet and it is an excellent dac. But i have noticed something.....when operating the filter settings with the remote one can choose between filters 1 to 6 as stated in the manual. But when operating with the dialer knob on the device itself one can an additional filter number 7.....?! Anyone else noticed this also?
See the photo's i took.....and there's also a very obvious audible difference in sound when having filter 7 activated.

Thanks in advance

In my E70 V. the Filter 7 does not appear, but only appears from 1 to 6

 

[Deleted member 49915]

In my E70 V. the Filter 7 does not appear, but only appears from 1 to 6

Have you tried to acces the menu via main switch off/on procedure? So main switch off> press and hold knob>turn on main switch(at the back)>cycle through options and then select filter settings and cycle through them....on my E70 Velvet there appears a filter no.7 When connected via usb and looking into the Topping audio device control panel the firmware revision seems to be 1.04 > Topping E70 Velvet

Also sent an email to aftersales Topping, still waiting for an answer to my questions.......in the meantime if anyone can confirm or can also reproduce the 'issue'.....i would like to hear from you.

Thanks!

 

[robertospeed]

Have you tried to acces the menu via main switch off/on procedure? So main switch off> press and hold knob>turn on main switch(at the back)>cycle through options and then select filter settings and cycle through them....on my E70 Velvet there appears a filter no.7 When connected via usb and looking into the Topping audio device control panel the firmware revision seems to be 1.04 > Topping E70 Velvet

Also sent an email to aftersales Topping, still waiting for an answer to my questions.......in the meantime if anyone can confirm or can also reproduce the 'issue'.....i would like to hear from you.

Thanks!

I bought the Topping E70 Velvet on January 15, 2023 and never updated the firmware , but I have firmware v1.04 .
From remote control I press FIR button , but the filters come from 1 up to 6 in PCM , instead in DSD there is no filter .
I have always connected the DAC in USB to the PC .

Wait , I did the procedure , I turned off from behind and turned on again with the volume monopole always pressed , and so if you manage the filters from volume knob F-7 it appears to me also , instead from remote control F-7 it does not appear