Topping E70 Velvet (AKM 4499EX)

[JSmith]

too linear for my tastes

What does this mean?


JSmith

 

[Deleted member 49915]

Anyone come from an E30 or D10 and find any sound quality differences or the same?

I'm curious too - if I run the E70 with a PA5 II (I have a Bryston B60, but would like to own a Class D as well), can I connect my speakers via bare wire? Is still a balanced setup then? Thanks.

I briefly had an E30 II prior to the E70 Velvet. The E70 Velvet is absolutely better in terms of detail, soundstage and overall sound signature compared to the E30 II. My guess is that it also counts in comparison to the older E30. The E30 II seems to be tuned as an 'overall signature to the warmer and thicker side' compared to the E70V. The E70V is more balanced in terms of bass to mids and highs. with the E30 II i sometimes had to listen and try too hard to hear the finer details (highs), and with the E70V i do not, and so it is more relaxing in terms of 'sit back, relax and listen and enjoy'.
Also i had the feeling the E30 II had a more 'compact and focussed on the middle' soundstage.

 

[Veri]

with the E30 II i sometimes had to listen and try too hard to hear the finer details (highs), and with the E70V i do not, and so it is more relaxing in terms of 'sit back, relax and listen and enjoy'.
Also i had the feeling the E30 II had a more 'compact and focussed on the middle' soundstage.

Sounds like a whole lot of mumbo jumbo, I'm sorry.

 

[Deleted member 49915]

Sounds like a whole lot of mumbo jumbo, I'm sorry.

What are you sorry for? And what mumbo jumbo?.....i am not sorry for saying if that is the only thing you have to say in this topic, then what are you doing here if you don't have anything usefull to say or at least with good arguments.
Try to respect the perception and meaning of other people instead of just 'mumbo jumboing around' in topic's.

 

[JSmith]

And what mumbo jumbo?

Pretty much all of this;

detail, soundstage and overall sound signature

seems to be tuned as an 'overall signature to the warmer and thicker side'

more balanced in terms of bass to mids and highs

had to listen and try too hard to hear the finer details (highs)

so it is more relaxing

more 'compact and focussed on the middle' soundstage

These are well measuring DAC's, i.e. transparent to the source, not EQ devices. Have you done any proper level matched comparisons, or is all the above just subjective opinion?


JSmith

 

[Jarrett]

I know this is ASR, but the hobby is kind of dead if we don't talk about sound. When I was visiting shops in the 2000s, all we could do is subjectively evaluate.

 

[Deleted member 49915]

Pretty much all of this;






These are well measuring DAC's, i.e. transparent to the source, not EQ devices. Have you done any proper level matched comparisons, or is all the above just subjective opinion?


JSmith

'These are well measuring DAC's, i.e. transparent to the source'.....everything has a sound. Variations and combinations of components can result in a different sound signature of a device.

Are you living by measurements only?

It's a shame there are too many 'I know it all better/these are well measuring dac's' users on this forum, who are beating any discussion to death.

have a nice 'measurement day' sir.............

 

[JSmith]

Are you living by measurements only?

Nope... have you ever level matched 2 DAC's and compared without peeking?

have a nice 'measurement day' sir.............

Will do, thanks.


JSmith

 

[Veri]

'These are well measuring DAC's, i.e. transparent to the source'.....everything has a sound. Variations and combinations of components can result in a different sound signature of a device.

"Everything has a sound", oh like magic vibration rocks and God forbid, different sounding cables etc?

Can't say I agree. And if this is truly your conviction, I would seek a conviction-based audio forum rather than a science-based one. No ill feelings or meanings intended! Just a bit weird seeing all these things on an audio science forum.

 

[Deleted member 72219]

Question for E70 Velvet owners: Can you use both, the XLR and RCA outputs simultaneously? This was an annoying limitation I had on my Musician Draco and Denafrips Ares II DACs that prevented me from hooking up my subwoofer (to RCA) and monoblocs (to XLR) simultaneously (yes, I know those DACs don't have volume controls; I would utilize the volume control in the streamer before the signal hits the DAC).

-Ed

 

[bumblebee657]

XLR and RCA outputs can be used at the same time.

 

[Bene]

Hi, it is still a good option to buy this dac for 350 Euro? or something else...

 

[Deleted member 72219]

Hi, it is still a good option to buy this dac for 350 Euro? or something else...

I don’t see why not. In fact I ordered one and am waiting for it to come in.

-Ed

 

[Deleted member 72219]

Loving the E70 Velvet.

Funnily enough, I see SMSL has just released the AK4499EX/4191EQ-based RAW-DAC 1. It's quite a bit more expensive than DO300EX or E70 Velvet. I don't quite understand why pay more for the new RAW-DAC 1 over the DO300EX. At least if for some bizarre reason you listen to MQA, I can see picking either of the SMSLs over the Topping, but within SMSL's own line-up, it seems odd to have the two models against each other.

-Ed

 

[staticV3]

I don't quite understand why pay more for the new RAW-DAC 1 over the DO300EX.

If you need more than two SPDIF inputs, then the RAW-DAC1 might be worth the extra cost.

 

[Mike_Trueman]

Can i control the volume with the PC or do i need a pre amp with volume control since the PA has no volume control?
I also want a active subwoofer connected.

PC USB -> E70 Velvet -> XLR -> Power Amplifier -> Speakers
PC USB -> E70 Velvet -> RCA -> Active subwoofer

 

[staticV3]

Can i control the volume with the PC or do i need a pre amp with volume control since the PA has no volume control?
I also want a active subwoofer connected.

PC USB -> E70 Velvet -> XLR -> Power Amplifier -> Speakers
PC USB -> E70 Velvet -> RCA -> Active subwoofer

Volume can be controlled with the volume slider on your PC, the Topping remote, or the E70V's volume knob.

 

[Mike_Trueman]

Volume can be controlled with the volume slider on your PC, the Topping remote, or the E70V's volume knob.

Adding the subwoofer with RCA on the E70v and the amp with XLR would give no problems?

 

[staticV3]

Adding the subwoofer with RCA on the E70v and the amp with XLR would give no problems?

Correct, as long as your subwoofer has its own volume knob to match its output to the main speakers.

 

[Mike_Trueman]

Correct, as long as your subwoofer has its own volume knob to match its output to the main speakers.

It is the SVS SB-1000pro so that should be ok then.

I thought the sub always needed to be connected the amplifier because of sound delay.