Speaker Wire 'Burn in'

[Audiofire]

A quick secret is to put equipment in the freezing cold, then in the furnace.

 

[olieb]

The easiest way to get the burn in on the positive side is to take the cables to a commercial heat treater. They'll be able to heat the cable in a vacuum or controlled atmosphere furnace to the required temperature. Chances are that the insulation will need to be replaced. I doubt that the -364 C is something you'll be able to find in most areas. A cheap work around is a liquid nitrogen bath although that won't give you the perfect result. Again the insulation may need to be replaced.

Insulation is overrated anyway, at least the plastic kind. Wires should be in mid air insulated by a vacuum. This connection to the emptiness of space is such a boost to sound quality that already some centimeters in a vacuum tube done in the right way (continuous burn in) give you stellar improvements. Nothing comes close.

 

[mhardy6647]

Wires should be in mid air insulated by a vacuum.

I am going to have to think about this statement for a long, long time.

 

[Blumlein 88]

I am going to have to think about this statement for a long, long time.

I'd considered my own wire. I'd use vacuum tubes. Just connect the heaters straight thru. This way like 75% of the conductor is in a vacuum. You just have to connect the pins together and you'd have a string of vacuum tube, vacuum insulated interconnects or speaker wire. Guess I'd use 12ax7s for interconnect and KT88's for speaker wire. Or I could go DHT's for max tube goodness.

 

[mhardy6647]

I'd considered my own wire. I'd use vacuum tubes. Just connect the heaters straight thru. This way like 75% of the conductor is in a vacuum. You just have to connect the pins together and you'd have a string of vacuum tube, vacuum insulated interconnects or speaker wire. Guess I'd use 12ax7s for interconnect and KT88's for speaker wire. Or I could go DHT's for max tube goodness.

 

[srkbear]

13 pages addressing a burn in topic (!) that has managed to stay aloft for three years on this site and I’ve totally lost my ability to trust my Poe’s Law detector.

 

[Ze Frog]

The easiest way to get the burn in on the positive side is to take the cables to a commercial heat treater. They'll be able to heat the cable in a vacuum or controlled atmosphere furnace to the required temperature. Chances are that the insulation will need to be replaced. I doubt that the -364 C is something you'll be able to find in most areas. A cheap work around is a liquid nitrogen bath although that won't give you the perfect result. Again the insulation may need to be replaced.

Lol, funny thing is, on certain sites if you are known as a bit of an 'expert' because of some fancy wording, someone with the money, time or means will genuinely try these things.

I'd love to find the very first beginnings of the cable burn in myth, I'm sure it's a really interesting thread for a chuckle. What amazes me is those that have the means for all these magic cables are largely going to be clever or highly educated people as only people in good profession's are going to be able to put down that much cash. The internet has really highlighted that someone can be super intelligent academically, but at the same time completely mentally challenged. It really is amazing how people are so easily manipulated, humankind is devolving when it comes to the mind.

 

[egellings]

Capacitors are electron prisons.

 

[egellings]

And how does it work for recycled metals?

Doesn't the high temperature metal processing used to make or refine the metals themselves already pre-burn in the cables and all the other metals as well in your audio setup as well?

 

[xray]

Doesn't the high temperature metal processing used to make or refine the metals themselves already pre-burn in the cables and all the other metals as well in your audio setup as well?

It must be that the heat generated by audio signals is different than the heat generated in a blast furnace. I think if they heated a blast furnace with music it would work. Maybe line the furnace with class A amps.

 

[egellings]

It must be that the heat generated by audio signals is different than the heat generated in a blast furnace. I think if they heated a blast furnace with music it would work. Maybe line the furnace with class A amps.

Ooo-ooh! gotta getta setup like that!

 

[srrxr71]

Lol, funny thing is, on certain sites if you are known as a bit of an 'expert' because of some fancy wording, someone with the money, time or means will genuinely try these things.

I'd love to find the very first beginnings of the cable burn in myth, I'm sure it's a really interesting thread for a chuckle. What amazes me is those that have the means for all these magic cables are largely going to be clever or highly educated people as only people in good profession's are going to be able to put down that much cash. The internet has really highlighted that someone can be super intelligent academically, but at the same time completely mentally challenged. It really is amazing how people are so easily manipulated, humankind is devolving when it comes to the mind.

Yep “too much time on my hands” haha

 

[egellings]

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My Christmas tubes are in sockets and actually lit up.

 

[egellings]

Lol, funny thing is, on certain sites if you are known as a bit of an 'expert' because of some fancy wording, someone with the money, time or means will genuinely try these things.

I'd love to find the very first beginnings of the cable burn in myth, I'm sure it's a really interesting thread for a chuckle. What amazes me is those that have the means for all these magic cables are largely going to be clever or highly educated people as only people in good profession's are going to be able to put down that much cash. The internet has really highlighted that someone can be super intelligent academically, but at the same time completely mentally challenged. It really is amazing how people are so easily manipulated, humankind is devolving when it comes to the mind.

Many highly educated people may not be educated in a technical field and may unknowingly fall prey to cable audiophoolery. Some of the ad copy can sound pretty persuasive in a case like that.

 

[mhardy6647]

My Christmas tubes are in sockets and actually lit up.

You could sell those on Etsy!
(ahem -- I'd buy a string)

 

[srkbear]

I interned at a recording studio in college, and I wish I had photos of the rats nest of wires with frayed insulation and taped-together patch cables they routinely used for professional projects. My recollection of the budgets involved and the time constraints at work is such that if anyone invoked utilizing pricey cables or waiting for wires to burn in they would be very briefly side-eyed in wordless rejection.

 

[Platypus20]

FryCorder2 - Power Cord Burn-In Generator

The FryCorder2 is a burn-in signal generator designed specifically for audio equipment power cords and room wiring.

www.haglabs.com

 

[olieb]

FryCorder2 - Power Cord Burn-In Generator

The FryCorder2 is a burn-in signal generator designed specifically for audio equipment power cords and room wiring.

www.haglabs.com

I doubt these cookers are working well as they don't use tubes. Probably ruining the cables for good.

 

[srkbear]

I doubt these cookers are working well as they don't use tubes. Probably ruining the cables for good.

When you use headphones with tubes you don’t need wires!

 

[Platypus20]

Here is a high end one for the rest of your cables

The Cable Cooker