SMSL SU-10 DAC Review

[ethanhallbeyer]

I connected the denon avc-a1h via xlr to the smsl su-10 dacs and the d400ex and noticed that the sound is out of phase. With the dx400ex I could solve the problem with the relative phase shift option from the menu, while on the su-10 this option is not available. I tried to rotate the plug in the wall socket but the result does not change. Using an rca cable the sound is correctly in phase. Has anyone had similar problems with smsl devices? Thank you.

That is too bad hope a new FW fixes it or adds phase shift option.

Wonder if d1se2 has same issue.

Is it otherwise a noticeable upgrade from d400ex?

 

[Snoopy]

That is too bad hope a new FW fixes it or adds phase shift option.

Wonder if d1se2 has same issue.

Is it otherwise a noticeable upgrade from d400ex?

Why would the SU-10 be a upgrade?

 

[Milt]

I bought the SU-10 for the sheer audacity of it's overkill config.
Reminds me of Oppo.
Will take it's place beside the RME

Have a Topping DM-7 on the way for MCH.
Pair with the PRE90 + EXT90.

These guys are intuitive about their gear & applications.
Keep your uber expensive Euro stuff, IMO the price:value ratio is unreal

 

[cap1980]

Bought my su-10. The DAC is just wonderful compared to the su-9n. But there is one but. Does everyone get warm? about 40 degrees +-

 

[Snoopy]

Bought my su-10. The DAC is just wonderful compared to the su-9n. But there is one but. Does everyone get warm? about 40 degrees +-

No option to "phase shift" would be a no no for me.

 

[cap1980]

how to reduce heating on smsl su-10?

 

[Hattrick]

Great review! I voted great golfing partner! I was considering another DAC made by Gustard being the R26 but there was an interesting Amazon reviewer who owns the SU10 and also purchased the R26 and sent the R26 back stating he didn't find the performance to his liking at all. Curious if anyone else demoed the SU10 to the Gustard R26?

 

[Snoopy]

Great review! I voted great golfing partner! I was considering another DAC made by Gustard being the R26 but there was an interesting Amazon reviewer who owns the SU10 and also purchased the R26 and sent the R26 back stating he didn't find the performance to his liking at all. Curious if anyone else demoed the SU10 to the Gustard R26?

If U get a Gustard DAC , get the A26 and not that R2R nonsense

 

[Hattrick]

If U get a Gustard DAC , get the A26 and not that R2R nonsense

Yeah, I do like the SU10 quite a bit a great value in its price point. Do you own the A26? Curious if it would provide an audio "Oh Wow" compared to the SU10?

 

[Snoopy]

Yeah, I do like the SU10 quite a bit a great value in its price point. Do you own the A26? Curious if it would provide an audio "Oh Wow" compared to the SU10?

No. Don't own neither. But only reason for me to get the A26 would be using it with HQPlayer and Roon.

If you are just using it as DAC I probably go with whatever has the features U like

 

[Hattrick]

No. Don't own neither. But only reason for me to get the A26 would be using it with HQPlayer and Roon.

If you are just using it as DAC I probably go with whatever has the features U like

Thank you Snoopy,
I have been comparing the SU10 to the internal DAC of my AVR850 for music reproduction. Though I don't have ability to set output voltages for comparison as some have stated is the only way to do an actual comparison, I have done my best using only one song for comparison purpose, being songs will also have various volume outputs. I have noticed I do like the SU10 better than the AVR 850 with this comparison. However it isn't like a huge "Oh Wow" either, thus debating if the improvement is worthy of the $900 investment. I am strong considering replacing my AVR 850 with the new Arcam AV 41 Processor which now has the same ESS chips like the SU10 and would bet the Processor would be even a closer match. Using the monies towards the new Processor.

 

[cap1980]

Solving the heating problem

 

[DRuszaT]

As for ASR's undue sensitivity, it is obviously not offensive to anyone to be called by the name he himself qualifies in the public eye:

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[Snoopy]

I connected the denon avc-a1h via xlr to the smsl su-10 dacs and the d400ex and noticed that the sound is out of phase. With the dx400ex I could solve the problem with the relative phase shift option from the menu, while on the su-10 this option is not available. I tried to rotate the plug in the wall socket but the result does not change. Using an rca cable the sound is correctly in phase. Has anyone had similar problems with smsl devices? Thank you.

Couldn't you make a inverted XLR cable to fix this? I doubt smsl will update such a "old" device. They already moved on ...

(Exactly why I will stick with western brands in the future and lean more towards "professional" brands).

 

[JSmith]

As for ASR's undue sensitivity, it is obviously not offensive to anyone to be called by the name he himself qualifies in the public eye:

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If you have an issue with the non-usage of said term, PM Amir... it's his house, his rules. This review thread is not the place for this discussion (again).


JSmith

 

[DRuszaT]

If you have an issue with the non-usage of said term, PM Amir... it's his house, his rules. This review thread is not the place for this discussion (again).


JSmith

I see. I was just responding to your moderation comment above. So far, this "police" presence has not been fashionable here, which is why many people liked ASR. Let me know if it is now forbidden to form an opinion, because then I have no place here anymore.

 

[srkbear]

If this had an aes output it would be the cat’s meow.

Sorry, just catching this going down memory lane. Why would you want to have a digital output on a DAC? Forgive me if the question is daft somehow, I’m just not getting it

 

[Greenman]

Great review! I voted great golfing partner! I was considering another DAC made by Gustard being the R26 but there was an interesting Amazon reviewer who owns the SU10 and also purchased the R26 and sent the R26 back stating he didn't find the performance to his liking at all. Curious if anyone else demoed the SU10 to the Gustard R26?

I have the GUSTARD X26pro, which once upon a time was about the best measuring DAC on here, as well as the R26 (And SU1). After extensive listening guess which I much prefer and has a permanent place in my main hi if system….clue it’s the worse measuring one