Room vs Speakers

[Error79]

Hi, first of all sorry on my english didn't use him for some time Ok I'm replacing, my Wharfedale E30's and amplifier whit new speakers for start. Option is Wharfedale diamond 12, Triangle borea, Dali oberon,.... will be used only as audio speakers for music (no home theatre intrest) .... my bigest dilemma is floorstanding speakers or bookshelf ? Room dimensions are attached .... 8x3,5m but sitting area is 3x3,5 where audio system is set. To be honest i'm fan of floorstanding speakers. Will lisent any suggestion ... ofc you can say opinion on speakers/amplifier or give suggestion.... you konw how things go whit buying new stuff.
Tnx. V.

 

[Doodski]

The layout appears good for your architecture but you may be missing some bottom end/bass due to the missing sidewalls at the speakers. Overall though it looks good.

 

[Zek]

but you may be missing some bottom end/bass due to the missing sidewalls at the speakers

I think such a setup is better because there will be no booming from side reflections which will result in cleaner bass and better definition.
Floor standing speakers would be a good choice.

 

[Doodski]

I think such a setup is better because there will be no booming from side reflections which will result in cleaner bass and better definition.
Floor standing speakers would be a good choice.

Time will tell. It's six of one and a half dozen of the other.

 

[staticV3]

Hi, first of all sorry on my english didn't use him for some time Ok I'm replacing, my Wharfedale E30's and amplifier whit new speakers for start. Option is Wharfedale diamond 12, Triangle borea, Dali oberon,.... will be used only as audio speakers for music (no home theatre intrest) .... my bigest dilemma is floorstanding speakers or bookshelf ? Room dimensions are attached .... 8x3,5m but sitting area is 3x3,5 where audio system is set. To be honest i'm fan of floorstanding speakers. Will lisent any suggestion ... ofc you can say opinion on speakers/amplifier or give suggestion.... you konw how things go whit buying new stuff.
Tnx. V.
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How much do you want to spend on the speakers and Amp?

Do you have space for a subwoofer?

Which country are you located in?

 

[Error79]

Thank you for reply, i guess i will spend on speakers around 600-900€, will be Triangle Borea br07, Dali Oberon 5/7, Whaferdale diamond 12.3/4, for Amp. Will see later ... for now will use my NAD.
I'm from Croatia (EU).

 

[staticV3]

Thank you for reply, i guess i will spend on speakers around 600-900€, will be Triangle Borea br07, Dali Oberon 5/7, Whaferdale diamond 12.3/4, for Amp. Will see later ... for now will use my NAD.
I'm from Croatia (EU).

Personally, I'd skip Triangle and Dali as they don't appear to make well designed loudspeakers:
https://www.spinorama.org/?brand=Dali&page=1
https://www.spinorama.org/?brand=Triangle&page=1

KEF, Polk, Emotiva is what I'd look into for floorstanders:
https://www.spinorama.org/index.html?shape=floorstanders&page=1&sort=score&priceMax=1000

E.g: https://emotiva.com/products/factory-renewed-airmotiv-t2-pair-floorstanding-tower-loudspeakers

 

[PeterNL]

Thank you for reply, i guess i will spend on speakers around 600-900€, will be Triangle Borea br07, Dali Oberon 5/7, Whaferdale diamond 12.3/4, for Amp. Will see later ... for now will use my NAD.
I'm from Croatia (EU).

I would try to find second hand Wharfedale Linton Heritage 85 if I was You.

 

[Error79]

Interesting suggestions, Polk R500 will go and listen in few days, Emotiva ? Don't vabe any experiance whit them, used Linton sounds good, atm i have wharfedale and like how warm are .... so subjectively I like WH.

 

[Ropeburn]

Whatever you eventually get, bookshelf or tower speakers, try placing them away from the wall, at least 50cm, preferably more. I know it's always such a thing with placement and space constraints. If they absolutely must be closer to the wall, choose speakers with a gradual bass rolloff, so the added bass from the wall doesn't get too much.

Generally, I can see big tower speakers working just fine there, as long as they have the right characteristics in the lower bass. Like this for example:

From this Audioholics review, some 1100€ the pair

Well suited for placement near the wall, which will reinforce the region below 50-80Hz or so, depending on distance. With proper placement you'll get nice, even response down to 30-35 Hz. That's subwoofer category already, and pretty much the best you can expect from very affordable speakers.

The smaller Aurora 700 model (2x6.5" woofers instead of 2x8") are also something I can recommend. Around 700€ the pair, slightly less deep bass, but also unproblematic with placement and generally really nice, well balanced speakers for the price.

 

[Error79]

Thank you, and what is your opinion when does speakers become too big for room ? I ask that because very often it happens that eg. Wharfedale 12.4 are cheaper than 12.3 or oberon 7 than oberon 5 ..... sort of pradox but i guess most ppl in entry class buy smaller speakers or midrange ....

 

[Flaesh]

when does speakers become too big for room ?

Always been curious))). IMO in your case Wharfedale 12.4 (or similar) wouldn't be "too big".
What E30 do you have now?

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[Esprit]

Whatever you eventually get, bookshelf or tower speakers, try placing them away from the wall, at least 50cm, preferably more

 

[Error79]

Always been curious))). IMO in your case Wharfedale 12.4 (or similar) wouldn't be "too big".
What E30 do you have now?
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Same one, i would say identical

 

[Error79]

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Placing will be done by manufecturers sugestion i guess .... most of them have some special demandes ....

 

[Esprit]

But this is physics.
However, the best solution is to measure and position the speakers based on the measurements.

 

[DSJR]

If it's the 1970s E30 speakers the OP owns, they'll have a most no bass at all and a very 'projected' upper mid and top. Not so much the otherwise clean NS10 style, but more the raw brightly lit tones of classic Klipsch Heresys... I'm not saying the sound was bad at all, just totally different to almost everything else if memory serves

Any half decent modern box will arguably offer more bass output than the OP may be used to and if my memories still hold, I'd ask the OP to allow some solid hours of listening to acclimatise themselves with a more neutral tonal balance.

 

[Error79]

But this is physics.
However, the best solution is to measure and position the speakers based on the measurements.

Yes it is but it wiuld be too compicate for someone aparate like me, and also needs equipmqnt to do, so i was more for some exepriance knowlige

 

[Error79]

If it's the 1970s E30 speakers the OP owns, they'll have a most no bass at all and a very 'projected' upper mid and top. Not so much the otherwise clean NS10 style, but more the raw brightly lit tones of classic Klipsch Heresys... I'm not saying the sound was bad at all, just totally different to almost everything else if memory serves

Any half decent modern box will arguably offer more bass output than the OP may be used to and if my memories still hold, I'd ask the OP to allow some solid hours of listening to acclimatise themselves with a more neutral tonal balance.

you have explain them pretty right, even i love them they have very week bass and high mids. Didn't have chance to hear too many speakers but in time i get ustu on them, and like that type of sound (now is time to change )

 

[Esprit]

Yes it is but it wiuld be too compicate for someone aparate like me, and also needs equipmqnt to do,

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