Much more limited, but Audioholics has measured a few:Bummer. I wonder how the popular Denon models measure, seeing as the 4000+ model numbers always have glowing mentions of their sound quality.
Denon X3300 measurements
Much more limited, but Audioholics has measured a few:Bummer. I wonder how the popular Denon models measure, seeing as the 4000+ model numbers always have glowing mentions of their sound quality.
It would be great to see an Arcam (UK brand) AVR tested, but perhaps they don't sell many over there.My pleasure. Another AVR review will come out soon....
Pioneer has never been able to make hi-fi devices. Not even in the golden 80s. That was always below average.
The FM tuners were also among the best. Too many to choose from, really, over a long period, from the early huge stuff to the later slimline ones.That may be one of the most ignorant things I've read in a long time.
SX-1980 anyone?
That may be one of the most ignorant things I've read in a long time.
SX-1980 anyone?
PS: I owned an SX-1980. I 'lost' it in a divorce. I miss the Pioneer a lot, and if truth be known, I guess I loved it more than I ever loved the ex. At least my Pioneer didn't take half of everything I owned when it decided to malfunction. And the Pioneer was definitely less 'high maintenance'. Much easier to repair. LOL
You know what they say...
If it flies, floats, or fu**s, it's cheaper to rent than to buy...
Lucky US citizens, I serioulsy doubt in Europe a mfr would have made you such a generous offer for a trade, if they had done any!
They are sold here and classically, they have had much better performance (but at higher prices too). I have not kept track of them in the last few years though.It would be great to see an Arcam (UK brand) AVR tested, but perhaps they don't sell many over there.
They are sold here and classically, they have had much better performance (but at higher prices too). I have not kept track of them in the last few years though.
I have a high-end NAD AVR review to come soon. And someone just offered an Anthem.
I get the idea buying a vintage AV receiver from the '70 and' 80s will give a higher change getting better components then a 2018/2019 model. Only based on all the pictures and experiences I've seen posted by @restorer-john
If so, we should maybe make an inventory.
Sure, but that's not attractive to consumers with a lower budget. I guess the brands have figured out that the lower audibility border can be reached at a much lower cost. And I don't know figures, but I guess the economy has resulted in much higher quantities. So quantity > quality easy becomes more attractive for a company. Maybe they must do so to survive in this mess.They knew food properly arranged and served on a nicer plate will always taste better...and people were as happy to pay the mone
If they just documented the deficiencies I would have been in much better mood. A footnote that says you can't run more than 33 watts for 30 seconds would do. And the fact that all internal processing is at 48 kHz. That way, I would have searched for another unit without these deficiencies. Or buy it fully aware of the restrictions. They seem to just "know" that no one measures these things anymore.
The sad fact about these recievers is you keep them until they break, chunk them, and buy something else. No one does that with an SX-1980.
It would be interesting to try an older AVR from Pioneer or Marantz. Were they ever any better?