Revel F208 Tower Speaker Review

[QMuse]

Here you go. As I said I'm not going to spend a lot of time to optimize this room, I'll be moving soon. Will probably run Dirac later.

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This looks quite good for an uncorrected response. Although that dip at 2100Hz spoils it a little.

 

[carlob]

I'm sure those books on the table will seriously affect FR.

Btw, I think it would be better if you move speakers apart as they seem too close to each other considering distance to LP. I also suggest you use MMM RTA pink noise when measuring from LP.

Yeah, in reality it is an effect of the wide camera. Tweeter to tweeter is about 230cm and pretty much the same to the listening point.

 

[QMuse]

Here you go. As I said I'm not going to spend a lot of time to optimize this room, I'll be moving soon. Will probably run Dirac later.

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Is this MMM or sweep?

 

[carlob]

Is this MMM or sweep?

sweep. Mic as in photo.

 

[fredoamigo]

Boundary off, tweeters at 0. Measures with and without the messy coffee table are pretty much the same
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Bravo... for the wheels on the coffee table ! I was thinking of doing the same thing.

 

[QMuse]

sweep. Mic as in photo.

Can you plz do MMM over that red couch?

 

[carlob]

Bravo... for the wheels on the coffee table ! I was thinking of doing the same thing.

https://www.fontanaarte.com/en_it/tavolo-con-ruote-tavolo-trasparente-nero-f1010tb150tr10.html

 

[carlob]

Can you plz do MMM over that red couch?

Yep, will post later

 

[carlob]

Although that dip at 2100Hz spoils it a little

Think it's consistent with Amirm measurements: some directivity error at crossover. The F228Be fixed that according to the spins I've seen.

 

[QMuse]

Think it's consistent with Amirm measurements: some directivity error at crossover. The F228Be fixed that according to the spins I've seen.

In your case it is more pronounced, but let's wait for MMM.

 

[Ron Texas]

@carlob nice room. I dig the painting. You are fortunate to not have dips between 100 and 200Hz which are usually a result of being fairly close to the front wall. The dip at 2100 is nothing to be concerned about. It's unlikely EQ would make a difference.

 

[thewas]

In your case it is more pronounced, but let's wait for MMM.


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His crossover dip can be really more pronounced as his listening position seems at a distance where the sound power percentage is higher than the direct sound, but as you write its better to wait for the MMM.

 

[QMuse]

Btw, it is the response below 70Hz that I find troublesome, not that peak and dip as that can easilly be corrected because in Amir's measurement LW curve follows ER and SP there.

 

[QMuse]

His crossover dip can be really more pronounced as his listening position seems at a distance where the sound power percentage is higher than the direct sound, but as you write its better to wait for the MMM.

Yes, that happens as distance to speakers increases. But I see no problem there, it is bass response below 70Hz that looks too shy.

 

[carlob]

Yes, that happens as distance to speakers increases. But I see no problem there, it is bass response below 70Hz that looks too shy.

Yes, I think there is nothing I can do there besides using subwoofers. Can't place them in the corners. Anyways they sound quite good, maybe a little bright.

 

[QMuse]

Yes, I think there is nothing I can do there besides using subwoofers. Can't place them in the corners. Anyways they sound quite good, maybe a little bright.

Yep, EQ can't help you there as they are too far from the corner to get boundary reinforcement so only sub(s) can help.

 

[thewas]

Yes, that happens as distance to speakers increases. But I see no problem there, it is bass response below 70Hz that looks too shy.

I know unfortunately from such also from my current listening room, also in the Charles Sprinkles MMM video he needs to add 6dB below 100 Hz to fill the room basswise up.
As I always say, room acoustics can be such a bastard...

 

[QMuse]

Can you plz post REW mdat after you do MMM? I would like to overlay it with Amir's PIR curve.

 

[QMuse]

I know unfortunately from such also from my current listening room, also in the Charles Sprinkles MMM video he needs to add 6dB below 100 Hz to fill the room basswise up.
As I always say, room acoustics can be such a bastard...

My right speaker needed 8dB, so what to say..

 

[tuga]

I know unfortunately from such also from my current listening room, also in the Charles Sprinkles MMM video he needs to add 6dB below 100 Hz to fill the room basswise up.
As I always say, room acoustics can be such a bastard...

Can you add/mix a shelf below 100Hz together with filters to cut resonance peaks on REW?